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Trump plans to dismantle Biden AI safeguards after victory (arstechnica.com)
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[–] [email protected] 181 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

When I told people that literally every aspect of life will be worse under Trump, I absolutely meant it. Republican poison will seep into literally every aspect of our lives. And this is exactly what I mean when I say "everything is political" to those who only single out a handful of hot-button issues as "political".

With the rise of fascism in the US, just keep "everything is political" in the back of your mind for the next 4+ years, and if you don't believe it by then, I don't know what to tell you.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

4 years is quite an optimistic view. We'll see what they will implement of project 2025, this could have been the last election in the USA

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hence "4+", because I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Off to check if ‘civil war in the USA’ is on my bingo card.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought that was the free space.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's assuming that people are organized enough for a civil war.

I doubt that many Americans are.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This'll also extend far beyond American borders. We're all in for some... interesting times...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

In some places like Argentina they started earlier even without explicit allegiance to Project 2025. The ideology is pervasive and poisonous.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

With the rise of overt fascism in the US,

FTFY.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that if you use generative AI to publically embarass Donnie, safeguards will be tightened before one can start and finish the pledge of allegiance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I made a lot of Donald and Putin porn to shock the local magats. I never posted it, just showed them on my phone.

Turns out that if you use some languages other than English, even the shittiest AI wouldn’t filter out the words haha.

Доналд Трамп Путиннің пенисіне микрофон сияқты ән айтады

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The US had AI safeguards? I thought they're going all in with AI recognition and mass surveillance.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

For generative AI, yes.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don’t think this will make much difference honestly, we already have very little regulation here. It probably means that there will be copyright exemptions for training models. And honestly eroding copyright bit by bit is okay in my book.

What we should be worried about are the human rights that are about to be violated.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Allowing the rich and powerful to get around copyright is good, actually, because it means copyright MAY someday go away"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, the rules would allow everybody to get around copyright in this way. A rule like that would apply to all the indie LORA trainers as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget the current supreme court motto though: "rules for thee but not for me". Only massive and rich corporations will be allowed around copyright rules, but you and I and indie and open source will be held to the letter of the law.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right about the regulation but I'm not so sure about the copyright exemptions. All in all, you'd think he's more likely to side with property owners - especially the heirs of media empires - over progress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s certainly true. Trump’s also close with Musk these days, and Musk certainly will pressure him to allow Grok to vacuum up all the data for free.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Musk also has his hands on a fair amount of data through X and Tesla. But yeah... Copyright expansion seems like an odd place to start breaking the constitution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Problem is it is used to clean out copyleft too. Copyleft is a social good version of copyright. Using AI to wash it away, along with authorship, is not ok. Lots of open source wouldn't have taken over if it wasn't for stickiness of copyleft breaking "the tragedy of the commons".

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

When Trump is crushing them under his boot they will blame Joe Biden.

[–] Imgonnatrythis 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I had a little trouble getting my morning poop out today. I decided to blame Joe Biden. It was either that or the pound and a half of cheese I had yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is "blame Biden" the next "thanks Obama"?

[–] Imgonnatrythis 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've heard that despite the vast majority of objective measures of societoeconomic factors improving under his leadership, many with direct links to policies he put in place, that he's actually the very worst president in the 400 year span of American democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is the least of my worries concerning trumps upcoming term.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

News would be even more useless, for one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's pretty scary. Completely overwhelming the media and internet with near-infinite variations of their propaganda is the most powerful way I can imagine for them to carry out the stuff you're more worried about, with even less resistance.

It's not the lack of AI safeguards themselves that worry me, it's the constant stream of propaganda drowning out reality that worries me.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Black mirror robo-murder-dogs coming soon.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

To the surprise of absolutely no one. Tech companies are going to force this shit down our throats whether we want it or not, and Trump is going to pave the way for it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

I really don’t think their goal is consumers.

Sure they want consumers to use generative AI so that they get quality feedback so they can improve the product. But that is not the goal.

The goal is enterprises, the goal is replacing workers with AI.

There are estimations that around 300B$ have spent so far for generative AI. This is not for a gadget that close to no-one likes and burns money rather than make money

This is for removing humans from the productive cycle. It is such an ambitious goal that the various CEOs/shareholders are ok taking such an high risk gamble.

Trump will ditch any red tape to AI because Trump openly wants this world, a world where there isn’t any more the need for immigrants or workers or unions.

My ingenuity suggests me that this plan will fail on technical grounds but if it will not, it will be worse. There will be poverty and civil unrest, there will be instability and wars (it’s always easier to look for the enemy outside rather than inside) and, in the end, economy will not do great either (who will buy the crap people will produce?)

Again, I think that this plan will fail on technological grounds but removing red tapes will not accelerate this failure

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, don’t for a second think this wasn’t part of the deal he made with Musk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Grifters, rejoice!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Quick let’s make an AI that despises billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

just stop supporting american companies already; trump's already going to ruin the economy so if you stop supporting american businesses it'll crash faster. pirate that shit if you have to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone should dismantle him, in small pieces

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Have you heard the saying about horrible end being better than horror without end?

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