MerrySkeptic

Thanks for the taxpayer expense of having this obviously unconstitutional law immediately challenged, appealed, and ultimately settled by SCOTUS. Won't it be fun if it turns out this is a new norm?

Just hoping my kid can graduate before this is officially a thing

Sounds like it was the bees' knees

I think we are reading it differently. From the article, emphasis added:

"[Their day] includes rising at 4:30 a.m., cleaning their room, keeping the public areas spotless. There are Alcoholic Anonymous meetings at 6 a.m. and work hours run from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. four days a week. Life on the farm involves grooming the horses, getting them out of their stalls and into the pastures daily, visits from veterinarians and farriers, and farm maintenance.

The other days the men attend therapy offsite or visit doctors in an effort to build their sobriety. Stable Recovery partners with an outpatient treatment program that provides classes and therapists and both sides keep in constant communication."

So work is a part of the program, not something that comes afterwards. I did not see anything saying they are not paid for the initial year. It says they are not paid until they start working (but neither are they charged). How soon they start working probably depends on going through some training and whether or not they have prior experience in the industry, but the point is that it doesn't say anything about a year before they can work. It says the goal is to have them in the program for a year, but work is part of the program.

And as the second paragraph points out, they partner with therapists and doctors in outpatient treatment. It's not just AA meetings.

One thing I missed until I reread this was that their work week is 4 days. Another reason I don't think this is about taking advantage of anyone.

For what it's worth 30 days of sobriety is a minimum standard for most sober living programs. It improves the odds of success and reduces the chances that someone will bring a substance into the community. It's not like they are fine after 30 days, it is a bare minimum standard needed to make the rest of treatment effective.

Idk, seems like they are genuinely interested in the well-being of the participants.

They're working and receiving room, board, and around $35k/yr. And a stable, supportive environment where they get transportation to outpatient counseling services, where the counselors stay in regular communication with the folks who run the program. You're making this sound like it's a grift

Geez, the cynicism runs deep with this one.

The wages you're quoting is on top of the fact that they don't charge anything for any of this until the men start working at which point it is $100 a week for food, shelter, clothing, and transportation. Do you know how much the average recovery program costs a patient? About $6k a month. The purpose, community, and stability these men are finding here is priceless.

Luke Cage ended with him as the crime boss running Harlem. Hope Marvel picks that back up

If there's one thing that the last 4 years proved its that the systems we have in place to check abuses of power are woefully slow to respond or to change. The only justice he might ever face is the Mangione variety.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4660008-donald-trump-hannibal-lecter-wonderful-man/

Was it Hannibal Lecter?

"Sometimes I just like to be by myself and listen to my own thoughts. We can talk tomorrow though. You didn't do anything wrong."

Don't you know people who use the Internet can't be bothered to read the article!

I think the real answer is that at the time they were making Thunderbolts it was still unclear whether the Netflix shows would be canon. Maybe for Thunderbolts 2?