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Y'know, I've always been dismissive of scare tactics, but maybe there's some sense in them

Those things you listed are just regulations though, and all leftists are for more of it. The grey area is when governments start to encroach too much on private enterprises. For example, I don't think it's authoritarian to demand that businesses pay a minimum wage to workers or adhere to environmental laws; however, I do think it's authoritarian to force forfeiture of all private assets and suppress opposition political parties which have been the hallmark of socialism and communism in the past.

Too much state control doesn’t eliminate exploitation, it just shifts it from corporations to an unaccountable government - and considering collectivisation is necessary to achieve the Marxist "dream", it doesn't make the theory any more attractive. I think decentralization and democratic institutions are better solutions to corporate overreach.

I'm saying bro is not all that.

They may not be equally echoey but they're still quite echoey and often deafeningly so.

good luck on your exams!

Thanks!

Stay optimistic friend. If the right can do it, we sure can!

I get what you're saying about the right being more unified, but writing them off as dumb is a mistake. The reason their messaging works isn’t just because their audience is less intelligent, it’s because it speaks to their material concerns and fears. The left needs to stop assuming people will just ‘figure it out’ and start actually meeting them where they are.

Yes, the left has more ideological diversity, but that shouldn’t be an excuse for why we keep failing at mass mobilization. The right has factions too - libertarians, religious fundamentalists, corporate elites, working class conservatives - but they manage to unite under a common goal. We need to do the same instead of endlessly debating who is the ‘most correct’ leftist.

Also, the idea that leftists don’t need influencers because they already know who to be mad at is exactly why the left struggles with mass outreach. Working-class people aren’t sitting around reading theory; they need someone to break things down in ways that feel relevant to them (and this is one area where Marxists get things right). Right-wing influencers do this effectively, while many left-wing figures get bogged down in purity politics or academic jargon.

If we really want to win, we have to get better at messaging, outreach, and coalition-building, not just hope that people are naturally smart enough to come to the right conclusions on their own.

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Not bro💀

It's the Marxist communities that challenge the echo chamber.

And by so doing become echo chambers of their critiques. Anywhere on the internet that is saturated with those who think alike is an echo chamber.

As a side note, did you read Blackshirts and Reds?

I read a bit. I haven't really been able to get through it cuz i have exams coming up. So i should get to it when those are over.

Uhhh yeah... I'm not too fond of Hakim's content as he spews largely the same stuff that is paraded here on Lemmy by Marxists (I'd be shocked if he didn't have a Lemmy account even), but i guess auth left > auth right🤷

Willingness to engage outside the echo chamber and in good faith makes you better than them in my book

Nah bro you definitely also should give yourself some props. You're probably the most ardent Marxist on the fediverse. Even though your contributions may not have reached the heights of db0's you're still quite influential in your sphere iykwim.

You're the father of fediverse Marxism while db0 is the father of fediverse Anarchism.

The two juggernauts going head to head💀🙏

I didn't even notice that smh my head

This doesn't mean that left-wing populism is dead though. There can absolutely be left-wing movements based on facts that appeal to the majority