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Have you seen the new Helix titanium cap they just released this summer? I got one and holy hell it's beautiful to look at AND it has completely changed the performance of my 2020-M (for the better).

Sniff the comments in this thread make me so happy. I gave up combustion over a decade ago and my body has been happier for it.

These days I only combust socially when joining old friends who don't dry vape.

Lol, this industry has done plenty for me over the past decade, dropping some knowledge is the least I can do to give back.

Haha yeah the MFLB is for sure a very analog experience and takes quite a bit of practice to perfect. There are some devices in my collection I just don't share with anyone who doesn't also own the same device simply because I don't want them to accidentally combust and tarnish the flavor of the device.

The MFLB Finishing grinder is a niche product but it has it's uses. I like that it locks into the notch on the MFLB when grinding so it dumps directly into the oven for you. But dang it's a PITA to grind away like that - the dryer the herb, the easier to grind with that finishing grinder. Still it is a VERY popular grinder for many conduction-style vaporizers. I actually sell aftermarket adapters to connect the MFLB to a pax (custom funnel design), or even a mason jar lid so people could fill a glass jar with ultra finely ground herb haha.

Note - there are other grinders like the Brilliantcut grinder (pricey, but damn it's a nice grinder, I have one) which have different middle plates so you can choose the grind type (fine, medium, or coarse) - just grab two middle plates and you can swap out as needed.

Or if you don't want to buy any new grinders right now and have a 3 or 4 piece grinder try this trick: Turn your grinder upside down and grind extensively before uprighting your grinder for the herb to fall through into the bottom compartment.

The MFLB actually uses radiant heating as the primary source of cooking, as opposed conduction or convection which is far more common in portable vaporizers. This is partially why it's such a popular device with a cult following more than a decade after it's release.

Generally I’m not too concerned about stealth, affordability is somewhat a factor and (maybe like most people) I like to look for something that doesn’t break the bank and gives a lot for what you pay. Portability is favorable as I can see us using it more as we frequent more places where recreational use is legal.

For many years PlanetOfTheVapes (one of my largest retail distribution partners) sold their own POTV One vaporizer (basically a customized build of a HealthyRips Fury Edge vaporizer) for $99. It was an insanely popular budget-friendly device for the company. Basically one of their top five devices still to this day. POTV just dropped an upgraded model called the Lobo which I have yet to get my hands on. But knowing the company and knowing the previous device, I'd say that the Lobo is probably a really good option for the money - it'll be MUCH easier to use.

While the MFLB may be fully analog pulsing heat to the oven, think of these temperature-regulated portables like a car on cruise control. Just set your desired temp and sip away - the heater will pulse itself as needed to maintain that temperature (within a few degrees).

You can also do some fun stuff with the Lobo since it uses dosing capsules - you can preload those and easily reload the device on the go. I also like dosing capsules for "microdosing" - toss a bit of herb in the bottom of the oven then use an EMPTY dosing capsule as a spacer to hold things in place.

Ah the Magic Flight Launchbox (aka MFLB) was a cult classic back a decade ago. It was one of the best and stealthiest devices on the market..... once you get the hang of using it. The problem is that it is not the easiest vaporizer to handle - much more of an "analog" device.

Don't throw it out, but certainly stash it away until you become a more "experienced" vaporent.

Temperature control can be handy... depending on what you personally seek from the flower. Different temperatures don't simply mean "bigger clouds" - the reality is that different temps release different active compounds from the flower. This means you can "customize" your sesh based on your desires. For example I like lower temps in the mornings for a more uplifting creative affect, and higher temps in the evening for sedation. Others need high temp at all times for pain relief and sedation. That's fine, not all of us seek the same thing from the plant, and part of the fun is discovering what temps work best for you personally.

First, price does not equate to performance. That MFLB can out perform a bunch of vaporizers that retail for over $200..... once you know how to handle it properly (which takes a lot of practice.... and patience loading the device with ultra finely ground material - this device needs some of the finest ground herb of any device on the market).

Next, know that not all devices perform the same - vapor flavor, heatup times, oven sizes, draw restriction, etc all vary wildly from device to device. Since I work in the industry I've handled literally countless devices (lost count around four dozen lol) so by all means feel free to ask me how they'd compare to the MFLB.

What specifically are you looking for in a device? It sounds like temp control is one desire, I bet you wish you could get bigger clouds, but what else is a desire in a new device?

Do you need stealth? Portability? Budget-friendly? etc

Let me know what are most important aspects and I'll try to give you a few good options to meet your needs.

Woot! Happy to hear it! Thank you for your patronage - this biz is purely a labor of love with no corporate overlords. I am constantly innovating and pushing out new widgets to keep things exciting on the website.

I didn’t realize different temps have different effects as well. Do you have a chart or description of what effects the different temps have? Thanks!

There are a few charts floating around, but I don't exactly agree with all their data - some of the temps listed on these charts comes from single studies with minimal testing.

In very general terms I say low temps below 375F for a more cerebral creative uplifting affect, while temps over 400F work better for sedation and pain relief (higher temps especially for pain relief). Some people like to enjoy a low-temp sesh in the morning, and cook the remainder of the bowl in the evenings at a higher temp. The fun part is the ability to take a hybrid or indica and extract only the sativa-effects from the plant (which is inefficient as you won't get many big clouds, but it can be done which is handy when the options are slim).

The fun part is self discovery - start at 300F and work your way up 15F at a time, see how you feel

Haha, yeah I'm a flavor chasing snob most of the time myself - just kicking around a vapcap because I like to cycle through my devices to avoid building up a tolerance to a device

Btw I bought one of your mighty water pipe adapters back in 2018 and still use it all the time.

Woot! I love to hear it. The biz was and still is purely a labor of love.

Ever check out the Lotus vaporizer? It's a convection vaporizer which is unlike most other vapes on the market (and very different from the vapcap). Basically you heat a plate while drawing air over the plate - this is a forced convection heating. The faster you draw and move the torch, the more uniform your extraction. From a cold start, I can completely extract everything in a single rip, or temp step and play with the temps by adjusting draw speeds, etc.

It's a very analogue device. But it's so easy to combust (if you leave the torch heating one spot too long) so I NEVER shared mine with friends.

Neither, I prefer dry vaporizing to combusting these days - it's healthier, tastes better, and I can customize what the affects feel like (different temps cook out different medical benefits from the plant)

But I still enjoy combusting socially when someone is passing something around, but I absolutely prefer flavor chasing with a dry vape

The captive cap isn't bad - I like that it latches onto the tip better. I hear some people complain that the cap clicks too early making it a lower temp than older classic caps.

The real difference for my setup is the new titanium helix tip which is a real work of art to look at (the main reason I bought it lol, it's just cool to look at) - that's what really increases the airflow.

Never heard of the Vaphit Silver Collar. That kinda looks like the idea behind the Dynavap Armored cap which supposedly takes like 3 minutes to cool down before you can reheat again - which kinda kills the purpose of the vapcap to me - I like extracting in a few on-demand puffs. I don't need/want a device that stays hot for several minutes - I have many other vaporizers in my collection for that action haha.

So I upgraded the tip and the cap. My 2020 already had a captive cap, but felt like it needed a replacement (my old one was literally starting to get rusty from heavy use lol)

It's a very different experience - the draw resistance has completely changed with this new titanium helix tip. I can literally hear the air wooshing inside from the edges of the cap. That is not something I've really heard before. The drag is also much lower - it feels like there's a hole in the vape even with a carb hole closed haha.

I feel like I'm able to get a more complete extraction in fewer cycles, and I'm able to get a deeper lung-full of vapor without fighting the draw resistance as much. Overall very pleased with my purchase.

Note - I got the standard captive cap. I did not opt for the newer "armored cap" which supposedly retains heat MUCH longer for a full oven extraction in one heat cycle - that's too much for me.

Lol yeah I usually prefer temps below 200C most of the time. Dang I forgot about my original Firefly2, I should dig it out and give it another spin. My biggest complaint was the design of the vapor path - it was a PITA to keep clean enough for my OCD needs haha

Lol yeah I'm torn between the two. I might have just scored an early copy of the Lobo as well through my wholesale contact at POTV (they're one of my largest retail partners in the country)