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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (15 children)

If Biden really wants to sweeten this, he should propose improvements to the ACA, in addition to preserving what Republicans have thus far failed to kill. Start playing offense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Get rid of the concept of deductibles, bring back that public option, allow year-round sign up, there are a lot of improvements that could be made. Unfortunately Democrats are not the party of solutions, they are a party of maintaining a status quo.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Trump will do what he did last time. Claim to have a Healthcare plan. Point to an enormous pile of blank paper saying it's his Healthcare plan or something. And continue to have absolutely no plan and make no progress. Followers will irrationally feel like things are improving even though nothing has changed. Or actually gotten worse if they manage to get control of the house and senate and kill the affordable care act. Expect gains Biden made in his administration, like for the first time allowing Medicare to bargain with drug companies for better prices, to also be on the chopping block.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For a candidate that was the first real meme candidate, it's pretty amazing there aren't popular memes about his lying and deflection and haplessness.

It seems the gish gallop works in the dank.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

My dude, where was your internet during those 4 years? We absolutely had tons of memes about it. There was just so much material that the quantity drowned out the quality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Totally. I'll never forget about perpetual infrastructure week.

Also was kind of funny that in the end a large infrastructure bill was one of the first things Biden/congress actually did after taking office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I get there was memes, but none have survived the passage of time in the same way. Thanks obama has survived.

It’s the sheer volume of trumps inadequacies. None stick in the same way as he’s as disposable as his memes. With high quantity, I’d expect some to rise to the challenge. None really did. None capture the moment or zeitgeist around him.

Perhaps referring to him and his administration as a dumpster fire did, but that was more language catching on than a meme.

The drowning out is partially my point. A gosh gallop is giving so much misinformation that to properly rebut is not possible,

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ironically, Thanks Obama has been retired

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Trump promised a health care plan by August 2020. It obviously never came. There is no Trump health care plan other than repealing a Healthcare policy 60% of Americans have favorable views of. A great target for the Biden campaign.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's throw millions of Americans back into the clutches of the scarcely regulated health insurance industry like it used to be. That's a winning message. Please proceed, Mr. Trump.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is a winning message for the "Fuck you, I got mine" crowd.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

It’s also a winning message for the I-vote-my-values-not-my-best-interest crowd.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Personally I am still on team repeal and replace, repeal the Affordable Care Act and just go with a single-payer healthcare program like you would find in any Civilized Nation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

"Affordable" Care Act.

Ha.

I need surgery. The list price is $40,000. The cash-up-front price through a hospital was $9500. The price for the same surgery through an ambulatory surgical clinic is $4700. I am offered insurance through my workplace. My monthly premiums would be $200, I would have an annual deductible of about $5000 before 20% coinsurance, and then an out of pocket maximum of $9500. My price through workplace insurance would be $11,900 (monthly premiums + out of pocket max). I can get a platinum plan on the Healthcare.gov that would cost me $750/mo in premiums--I don't qualify for any subsidies because I can get shitty insurance through my workplace--that has an annual deductible of $750, and an out of pocket maximum of $1500. So the same surgery would be $10,500 for a full-price plan on the marketplace.

Short of a catastrophic accident or illness, insurance just isn't affordable, and doesn't make sense. Unless Biden can fix the system so that you can get subsidies on the marketplace even if you are eligible for insurance through your employer, it's just not going to work. I would definitely pay $250-300/mo for a platinum plan, but I can't afford $750/mo, and I can't afford to pay both the premiums and the deductible for what I can get through my workplace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Fail until you claim victory?

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