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I just saw some posts from beehaw.org and lemmy.world, looks like we're back in business!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For now, I'm just preparing the groundwork, but first, I need to get some sleep :p

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You are killing it. Keep it up and take care of yourself!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Would you say you've been working on kbin... wait for it... IN ERNEST?! badum tiss

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you're the man too, the exodus is on? at least the 'traffic is enormous holy shit' prompt on the right is a good sign.

someone's gotta help this guy though if it's just one dude and his server rack in his spare room

*edit works looks like. yea this is cool, pretty much reddit, nice

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Indeed, pretty cool!

First thing I noticed though is that I'd really like to know which instance a thread is actually on.

For example, this post:

Going back to Reddit feels bad (kbin.social)
polygon, 2 hours ago to chat

... is actually on [email protected], even though it says "kbin.social" and just "chat" below. Pretty confusing.

EDIT:
There's at least one fix for this in the meantime -- get this userscript:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also: I think usernames from other instances should show which instance they're from.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes the full username@instance for all remote users at a minimum would be good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

you can see this if you hover over their name. but it's not displayed by default. It'd be nice to have an option to have it written out rather than hidden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it'd make the comments a little cluttered looking. It doesn't really matter what instance someone is from for regular conversation and if someone's curious the can click through to the persons profile

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be an option. Some people prefer the "clean" version of just showing username, with needing action to see url. while others prefer seeing the entire username+url even if it's "messy". I'd prefer the latter, while others might prefer the former. It should be a toggleable option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think appending it to the username would be slightly messier for me, but for unexplainable brain reasons I seem to want to have this feature as well. Maybe if we stuck the instance below their avatar instead?? In any case, it would still be appreciated on articles

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, whatever ui to show it i'm fine with as long as i don't need to hover over every name to see it lol. whether it's just added to the end like how tagging works, or if it's shown underneath or something is fine too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking it should be included to avoid casual impersonation. I agree it would be a lop more cluttered though; maybe there's another way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean - on the desktop site at least, I can just hover over someone's name and see what instance they are on.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Threads are hosted on the instance that the magazine is on. I think instances viewing it also just make a copy?

You can check the @ to see the url for both users and magazines. I'm not fond of the fact that kbin often hides the @url for things. I'd much prefer to see it since it makes things feel bigger to me. @[email protected] just ends up being shortened to @.chat lol. see? @chat @chat they are identical lmao. it's annoying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying -- that the link source indicator should point to the instance that hosts the group -- but it's a quirk of how federation works that the thread is actually on kbin.social. And, well, any other site that's following the thread.

Everything is actually local on the fediverse. It's just that not everything has to originate from the local website. Federation works via content mirroring, which is why the URL for any given Magazine you're viewing still starts with kbin.social. You're not viewing remote content, you're viewing local content that was imported from a remote source. And the link indicator is telling you where kbin has been told the content resides.

And that's on kbin.social.

I think maybe the link source indicator just shouldn't render if the thread doesn't have a link purposefully attached to it, and the Magazine name should show the full name@host indicator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Cannot tell you how much I appreciate things like this and how long it's going to take me to get used to the idea of not being on a closed platform. It makes perfect sense, but it would seem to defeat the purpose of having the source there at all, like you've suggested. We know it's on kbin, that's where we are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

@ernest doing the business. What a dude.

If you have the means, sling him some funds

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean seriously? This dude's project has had hardly any downtime (like 100% inaccessible downtime) in the last few days during a massive migration. How impressive is that? He was able to find a solution with cloudflare where, sure things were a little slow to load and didn't federate, but I never found myself unable to access kbin. On top of that, he's communicating clearly and often. I hope this succeeds. @ernest has absolutely earned it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There have been a few times I've been unable to log in, unresponsive pages etc., but considering how recently kbin.social was created, the massive influx of users and the fact that @ernest is managing all this himself - absolutely phenomenal job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't looked into just what the backend architecture is like, but I've seen comments that suggested it may be a single physical server? If so, some short periods of downtime are unavoidable. I do high availability backend dev and it's no easy task to have near perfect uptime. Having distributed servers across multiple locations is essential for that, but generally requires careful design. Databases also get more complicated when using distributed databases (but I swear by them).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the link just donated!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Bought him several coffees earlier today, he deserves it!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Federation is back on the menu boys!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I can see this (and am posting from) from my personal kbin instance, so it seems to be working!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It seems to be slowly rolling back in. I still can't find my kbin account from my Mastodon account, but I can find my Mastodon account from my kbin account, for example. I also left a comment on a thread from [email protected] from kbin.social, but when I go to the actual Lemmy instance, I do not see my comment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yes I've been seeing much more activity at least from lemmy world and beehaw. moreso than these past few days. I've actually had a "live" chat with some of them!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is slowly coming back, ernest is testing the waters, he said recently that he was working on upgrading the server and that federation will slowly come back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yesss, the only thing i'm really hoping for is all my subscriptions from multiple fediverse platforms show up under one page.

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