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[–] [email protected] 122 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I learned so much over the years abusing Cunningham's.

Could have a presentation for the C-suite for a major company, post some tenuous claim related to what I intended to present on, and have people with PhDs in the subject citing papers correcting me with nuances that would make it into the final presentation.

It's one of the key things I miss about Reddit. The scale of Lemmy just doesn't have the same rate and quality of expertise jumping in to correct random things as a site with 100x the users.

[–] jballs 62 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The major problem with reddit is that you could never really trust the credentials of the person you were talking to. They might have been PhDs or they might have been 13 year olds who just learned to Google. It amazes me how many times I saw a highly upvoted comment posted about a subject that I knew a lot about, but was just so blatantly wrong.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah voting on content has nothing to do with quality and everything to do with feelings.

People just vote for their side of any discussion, regardless of validity.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Only if it's something controversial. If it's something technical with no political affiliation, people vote for answers that sound right. Thankfully Cunningham's usually comes to the rescue on time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

To be fair this is not a Reddit thing and it can be found in the fediverse too. I can remember some of such situations where a person just posted wrong stuff but in a very confident way. I was able to prove him wrong later but nobody cared anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

cunningham's law is intended to be used recursively

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As long as they provide appropriate sources then it doesn't really matter who they are

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Unless the thing falls under non-commercial electronics or computing. The community on here is skewed towards that for obvious reasons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I always kind of felt like those voices began to be drowned out the more and more popular reddit became. You're correct about Lemmy's scale, but there is certainly a sweet spot. I'm happy knowing Lemmy hasn't yet reached its own, and reddit's is long gone. I'm happier here and it's likely only going to get better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Errmmmmh achstually.., lol

[–] [email protected] 96 points 9 months ago (5 children)

i do the same thing. its called Murphy's law :D

[–] [email protected] 134 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know what you're doing but I can't help myself. It's Cunningham's law.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cole's Law: if there's a salad, I want that one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Brannigan’s Love is like Brannigan’s cole slaw, wet and chunky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Took me a minute to realize this was a pun... shame on me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Cole's law is best with a burger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I'll be honest you almost for me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ahem, it’s called Poe’s law

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They're Super Cereal

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

imo it's not that correcting feels better than helping but rather it's easier to correct someone than draft an answer of your own.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes that's part of the issue (or the whole deal), but sometimes it's not even that.

Sometimes it's that someone asked something difficult and elaborate to answer, which has been answered a ton of times, and it's tedious to answer again and again. But if someone answers with misinformation or even straight FUD, then one needs to feel the urge to correct that to prevent misinformation.

I suffered that with questions in r/QtFramework. Tons of licensing questions, repeated over and over, from people who have not bothered to read a bit about such a well known and popular license as LGPL. Then someone who cares little for the nuance answers something heavy handed, and paints a wrong picture. Then I can't let the question pass. I need to correct the shitty answer. :-(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I would say that if someone asks a difficult question it's often difficult because it's very general, so you don't have any specific point to answer that you know will satisfy the person asking.

On the other hand, if someone is writing misinformation then they provide specific statements which still may be difficult to correct but you have those anchor points you can refer to.

So I guess the thing here is that if someone, after asking a question, writes a BS answer they actually refine their question and narrow its scope, thus making it easier to answer.

I usually see broad questions about rather simple things unanswered, but very specific yet difficult questions answered

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

ACTually, they're still helping you, so it would be better to say correcting = helping.

Sincerely,

Definitely not Gollum's alt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Don't asks us, precious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Nicely corrected, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

This is like putting a $10 price tag on a free sidewalk item so someone will steal it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out. I was just about to upvote it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Who post programming questions on Reddit? Are you looking for answers in meme format?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

reddit was/is much more than a meme site

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, meme communities' comments could have some of the best in-depth discussions. Memes tend to provide a great launching point for discussions. A sort of prompt that everyone can coalesce around to talk in a serious manner about the subject.

/r/dndmemes and /r/programmerhumor were two great examples.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And they're still pretty good on Lemmy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Omg I didn’t even realise which community I was in as I made that comment!

But yeah, this one and [email protected] are both great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are serious programming subs. However, I find that those tend to debate/discuss solutions/approaches moreso than the actual code itself, although that's not unheard of either. For actual coding questions, I want to say there's a "learn programming" sub that has those, but they're pretty strict about just doing people's homework for them (those posts tend to be pretty obvious).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Where would you post them?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DUPLICATED, CLOSED, etc.

Joke aside, for an open question I'd prefer posting on Reddit/Lemmy/forums to have an open answer.

SO is too strict on its policy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The validation system is extremely off-putting. I have been working on some specialized tools for years so I could have answered some very precise questions with good confidence. However, the system was always there to detrust me and I was not going to spend hours to go through their hoops for an answer that takes me 10 min to redact. So instead I'll post it on Reddit or a gist hopping people will be able to discover it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Almost like that xkcd joke...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I was trying to remember where I read this originally. Thank you.

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