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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I wonder if this will be another Isreali claim they retract months later.

The same guy is in a hospital pointing to a "hostage keepers list" of "terrorist names" which is literally just a calendar.

https://fxtwitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1724175188638511544?s=46&t=ZPzbf-ovo3GhLXxqwlQYKQ

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Countdown for when they retract and admit it was bullshit: 1000... 999... 998...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This stuff is just absurd.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hamas actually mandates that every member names themselves after a day of the week to make scheduling easier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I heard Hezbollah uses months of the year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

hahaha! she's silly!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Thanks, bro.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here we have a dude justifying hard on bombing hospital with civilians in it.

but it's okay Hamas do it so IDF can too, they're both in the same league anyway

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is an asset to Israel.

Every time peace is brought up to the table, they’ll blow it up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hamas is an asset to Israel.

I'll take things literally said by Netanyahu's cabinet for 400 Alex.

I couldn't find the loose clip with a quick search. But John Oliver had it on his show Sunday.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

John Oliver did a good job explaining the situation.

Even without saying it literally, Hamas is backed by Iran and they want to destabilize the middle east. Israel wants as much land as possible.

So the plan is Israel ask Hamas to attack them so they can retaliate and occupy more land. A win win situation.

They have been in this state for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

But John Oliver had it on his show Sunday

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For fear of being called a Hamas bootlicker... I don't get it.

So there was a secret safe house under the hospital containing some weapons and evidence that someone had been tied up there in the past. Maybe that justifies surrounding the place with tanks and securing it.

So... now that's been secured, what is the justification for not allowing it to continue to function. Are the IDF giving amnesty to all the displaced patients and giving them the medical aid they need?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The last time they "provided evidence" it was a shitty animation with no actual proof whatsoever. I'm not believing a word those Nazi wannabes say ever again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2023/10/27/is-israeli-pm-netanyahu-using-cgi-cartoon-as-excuse-to-bomb-a-gaza-hospital/

There's other sources but the point being it's bollocks. Taking the Israeli government/military at its word is no less callous than actually believing that Poland attacked Germany first to start WW2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Appreciate the link.

I looked around a bit, and the most comprehensive source I found was from APNews:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-shifa-hospital-ce8fda9821a011a6cb6e4a3df5c90916

Appears to be an unbiased summary of the current situation along with statements and evidence made and provided by both sides (so far). Needless to say, the picture is far from clear.

I'd hesitate to compare an ongoing event with a lack of clear evidence to one in the past with a mountain of evidence and clear facts however. I really do hope that we will never reach a point where the events of the current Gaza-Israel war could be compared to the atrocities and horrors of WW2.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

that is some pretty weak evidence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Israel: Killing civilians is wrong ~~unless we're the ones doing it~~

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

IDF presents...IGNORE! Why aren't there independent parties allowed into Gaza to confirm or deny this? WHY? I don't believe anything IDF has to say without verification. That's just fair.