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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm more amused there's a workstation W7500, which unironically would've been a great desktop RX 7500 8 GB card, a tremendous performance uplift from the pitiful RX 6500 XT

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

would've been a great desktop RX 7500 8 GB card

At what price though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Makes me wonder, "7600XT, when?" I hope for 1x8-pin.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just don't get why anyone would want that If you're concerned about power consumption, Nvidia is just miles ahead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Before buying a new computer in 2026, my current one has the Ryzen 5 1600X. Nvidia has a CPU overhead problem, I might go back to Nvidia on my new build but just a GPU to hold me off for now. Under $350. Currently with the GTX 1080.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can you use these GPUs cores for python and coding AI?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I mena, just get a 7900 XTX instead. Both have the same ROCM support, but one has more VRAM.

TBH, I would have expected the Pro cards to be CDNA, compute cards, but they are RDNA (gaming architecture).

4080 is a much better deal when you are already 200 dollars from it, as everything is guaranteed to work, and is MUCH faster (this is pretty much a weaker 7800 XT).

4090 would still be recommended, especially as it has some Titan-Quadro DNA still in it, like ECC memory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You can use a regular rx7000 for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not being 24GB at that price point? No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're paying for ECC memory and certification in tools like autocad and solidworks, this isn't meant for us

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It has the same physical memory as the consumer cards, it just allows in-band ECC which is a software solution. There is no additional manufacturing cost to including in-band ECC. Nvidia even enables the option on the 4090.

You're right that you're paying for the certifications though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I thought as much, but you are still paying for it (as well as the extra bit of ram needed to make that work I assume) in that price tag

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Extra RAM would be if they used out-of-band ECC, which is where you use extra physical dies and a wider bus to handle the storage and transmission of parity data.

These use in-band ECC, which uses the existing memory chips/bus for parity. You have to toggle it in the driver, and with ECC enabled you don't get the full memory size nor the full bandwidth (you lose 1/8th of each). As far as I'm aware, no GDDR6 GPUs use out-of-band ECC.

It's purely a market segmentation thing, there is nothing physically stopping the RX7700 from running the exact same ECC mode as the W7700.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for clearing that up! My assumption was these cards would have a little extra memory so they could hit the 16GB with ECC turned on.

And yeah, it is just market segmentation but you still have to pay for it unfortunately 🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Please put this 48 CU die in a 7600xt for $320 with 12gb vram. Probably 10% faster than the 6700xt but same price+ new ai fearures

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So basically a 7700xt at twice the price?