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America sucks. Seriously. I'm just waiting for another country to bring it to the USA, because it seems inevitable.
People gotta stop putting faith into these ultimately crooked nations.
I mean ok but the fact that your car is spying on you has to break a thousand big tech nda’s
Disappointing result but this seems like something for the legislature to fix. Courts aren't always the solution, sometimes you have to just fix the damn law.
This is supposed to be covered by the fourthamendment but that's been meaningless for over 20 years now
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But that would mean the politicians would have to actually work instead of photo ops and promises!!!!
I wonder how long until we get to jailbreak our cars just so those cock suckers can’t spy on us.
Technically you already can. I just hope you have extensive programming knowledge because you're going to have to take an axe to the existing code.
May be able to find and remove whatever it's using as a cellphone antenna.
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Well.. fuck. More reason to not buy newer cars. At least you Americans are lucky. You can drive a dinosaur if it met with regulations. You technically don't have to buy new cars.. ever.
The scary thing? Define "new". This judgment is from a lawsuit in 2014. So any car made in at least the last 9 years is doing this. Maybe newer cars are doing even worse things.
Yep.
This is why I keep my 2006 toyota in tip top shape. I will drive that car as long as I possibly can.
Really considering taking out a loan just to fix an old car instead of buying new.
I'm taking my 2006 Avalon to 300k miles and beyond!
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So ask the judge why car companies want to track judges?
One of these companies needs to be beached to prove damages, I guess.
Time for an old fashioned beach-off
Just gotta get someone to hack their system. Then it'll be easy to prove damages
Setting aside questions of legality, it seems kind of like it wouldn't encourage someone to purchase their cars.
Yeah but the vast majority of car buyers won’t know about this or care. We’re all privacy advocates here but everyone and their mother is on Facebook or Instagram and is happily giving away all their information already anyway.
We’re all up in arms about this here in this thread, located in a self-selecting micro-community of people centered around a shared interest in the control of our data. If you called your mother and told her about this would it stop her from buying a new car in the future?
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That only helps when there's viable alternatives. Since pretty much all auto manufacturers do something like this it's not really a distinguishing feature.
And even if it was: how much worse/more expensive would a car need to be for you to not pick it over one that reads your text messages. And then ask the same question not for "you", but for the average consumer. Then be sad ...
Yet another item on my list of why I'll never buy a modern car.
I recently found a video talkkng about privacy. One of the topic was that privacy does not ring any bell in people's mind. Contrary to intimacy. Maybe we should all replace privacy by intimacy so we can tell what is really implied to non software people
Good point. Messages sent, images taken, and 'things happen' in cars.
Wait, how are CARS intercepting mobile activities?
When you connect to Bluetooth, it asks your phone to share call, contact and SMS information.
Think like the old horrible headunit text implementation, the ability to scan your contact list from the car, and see your recent calls.
Mozilla tested a bunch. Try a search on the platform and see.
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