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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

RX 580 and GTX 1060 has been around for a very long time, to the point I think right now is a very good time for an upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

fuck me in particular

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorta BS that my Radeon VII card is losing support when it came out the same year as those cards and outperformed them 🙃

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Whelp it was a good run. Off to the mining fields you…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do wonder what the impact will be on all the Vega integrated graphics. Lots of laptop cpus depend on that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

One of my biggest annoyances is AMD removes features and functionality over time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's completely stupid at this point. But there's a reason here. We're paying the price of GCN being basically the same architecture from the very first HD 7000s, which came out in 2012. The only changes we see are from the first generation GCN to the second, and also from Polaris to Vega. Polaris is basically the same refined arch as the 200 series, except less power hungry. I didn't understand why they previously dropped support for up to GCN 3, when in fact GCN 3 and GCN 4 are on par feature wise, and the r9 390x just beats the 480, let alone the Radeon fury series with HBM memory!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Depends massively on the game and VRAM used. 390X / 580 / Fury non X trade blows depending on game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a joke. Meanwhile nvidia still supports gtx900 cards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

meanwhile they only receive mostly driver version changes.... but nvidia has LONG since stopped caring about those gpus. It's been shown over and over and over again how nvidia's drivers have a tendency to regress on 1 and 2 generation old and older gpus.

It's also a fact that amd/ati has provided most often the longest running support for hardware driver wise. Plus vega/polaris aren't dead yet, they are receiving driver updates still just not as often. They haven't been moved to legacy yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's been shown over and over and over again how nvidia's drivers have a tendency to regress on 1 and 2 generation old and older gpus.

where?

which reputable source has show it?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I love that video

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

*shows a Radeon VII in the picture 🤦

Legit the sexiest card ever made.

Reference Vega 64 still going strong, games great at 1440.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

AMD confirms is not a software company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not that we need their SUPPORT in Linix and BSD. But open source driver is mostly developed by community anyway. So they can do as they please, i also am never forget them that they refused to port Radeon Software to Linux... For years people wanted it but no. And they blamed Linux as not suitable for task. My next GPU is Nvidia. Going back to roots. Maybe Intel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s vinegar bro 😎

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What about going backwards?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not thats its going to hit me, but kinda meh. The latest products using these architectures are sometimes not even released more than a few years ago. Let alone when they were last shipped, which is even closer. Driver support for something important as a GPU should last at least 5 years imho from the moment chips using the architecture were last shipped by AMD (not last sold in retail, as thats not something AMD can control).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does AMD always cut support so early? My 1060ti on my laptop still gets monthly drivers.

The RX 570 - 590 are not bad cards, they can still run most games on medium/high at 60fps, just no ray tracing. I played Doom Eternal on an RX 590 about 6 months ago and it was getting over 100fps.

I find it wasteful to cut support for cards like these so soon, a lot of people can still use them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Do you think they'll suddenly not be able to play games? I didn't update the drivers on my RX 570 for 4 months once and nothing happened.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

On Windows. on Linux these cards will be supported for another decade at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Stupid question: does AMD contribute to RADV and mesa? As in, are they the main contributors to the amd drivers in Linux? I assume that they are at least significant contributors? For situations like this where support is dropped by AMD, does that mean that they will still patch card specific issues, or do other contributors take care of that?

(I know the drivers aren't necessarily card specific overall, but what happens if a specific unsupported card has an issue with a new driver?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So happy I don't use Windows and I fully embraced Linux!

My RX 560 and 570 GPUs are very happy with it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For another 10 years at least!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

On Linux, not only supported but improving performance

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Last LTS kernel to have support for it (6.1) will be maintained until December 2026 or August 2033.

Wonder if you could even have a GPU in continuous operation for 34 years without replacing capacitors or something else.

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