Fuck this argument but packing boxes requires more skill than flipping burgers?
this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2023
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Maybe they think it's more physically taxing than flipping burgers, but I don't think that holds either. Standing all day in a crammed hotbox doing repetitive handwork is awful.
Both are harder than the other in different capacities
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I spent a summer working at FedEx. Super fun job. But putting boxes on trucks is not a job that requires skill. Neither is putting stuff in those boxes.
Putting boxes in trucks take a bit of skill if you don’t want it falling on top of you. You have to build with natural Ts to keep the boxes stable or else those columns you just built can easily topple. Keep in mind that those boxes come down the conveyor in all shapes and sizes and the speed they come can be unrelenting.
Source: I was a UPS loader when i was younger.
No it doesn't, but "unskilled labour" is just a term used to underpay people anyways. My job in fast food was way more difficult than my office job.
The idea that if you're not "skilled" then you should starve never made sense to me. It's all capitalistic bullshit all these rich assholes created to justify their bullshit and to keep us fighting each other. How is anyone ok with others struggling through life?
I respect hard work more than anything else. I hate to see someone working their butt off via overtime, multiple jobs, etc and still struggling to get by. Hard work should pay off even without a highly developed skillset
Hard work should pay off, but it shouldn’t be necessary to work that hard just to survive
Handballing might not take any skill but the work I've seen people put into it, they deserve to be payed well
Skilled labor... lol
Packing boxes is not skilled labor. Yet even burger cooks should make a living wage.
I always thought skilled labor was anything that took either vocational training (AC repair, mechanic), a trade that had an apprenticeship (electrician, plumbing), or a college degree (geo surveyor)
E.g. any job that required special training, proof of proficiency in a skill, and experience.
Skilled or not people need to be able to make enough money to literally live.
Either cost of living prices have to go way down or pay up. Minimum wage hasn’t kept up with inflation and that’s just an issue we need to deal with.
Is that "skilled labour" packing delivery boxes? Where did you study? /s
Skilled Vs unskilled labor is just capitalistic bullshit to pin the working class against each other. All labor takes skill and should be respected
I mean, doctors and nurses are for sure skilled positions. They should probably make a little more to justify all of those years of skill learning.
Doesn't mean cashiers should starve, but it's okay for them to be payed not as much.
And each should stand up for the other when they are being mistreated.
Most people don’t view packing boxes for Amazon as skilled labor either. They’re the same as burger flippers in their eyes.
The real war is class based it always has been. Everything else is a distraction.
Person is clearly a teenager or young adult straight out of school with zero work or life experience.
Thinks that they're special because they can pack 20 boxes an hour when their target is 15.
Won't be long until they realise their company doesn't give a shit and fires them for being 2mins late twice in a year.
All things aside if your not 5 minutes early your already 10 min late...it applies everywhere for me even showing up for work
I've had great burgers and terrible burgers, so it seems to me that making burgers is skilled labor.
PS Burger flipping is skilled labor. Also, watch The Menu
I love the argument that people who do some jobs are allowed to have a comfortable life while those who do other jobs don't. It highlights how wrong it all is, that work must be done but whoever does it has to be miserable.
It's easier to shit on someone and make yourself out to be better than it is to genuinely care and have to work towards the betterment of your fellow man
Right, be mad at someone for thinking that their job should pay their bills instead of the CEOs that hoard all the money.
I wouldn't go around just broadcasting my complete lack of knowledge of the financial or business world like that, but that's just me.
Where am I wrong? Genuinely curious.
During the golden age of American economy, corporate tax rates were sometimes as high as 90%. This resulted in corporations giving back to their employees or investing in research in order to further their products. This allowed for the basic worker to pay their bills working just one "menial" job. CEOs and head of corps made a lot of money, but the gap was much smaller between exec and grunt.
Now, because corporations pay little to no tax, the profit sharing goes straight to the execs and shareholders.
He should team up with the fry cook to cook Bezos than pack him in a box then have someone else in the exploited proletariat transport him somewhere remote maybe a trucker or a ride share driver.
So the sentiment in the reply is real.
The very notion that any job, be it blue collar or white collar, gets looked down upon is apart of the systemic "you're not good enough" strategy to squeeze more blood out of stone. A ditch digger vs a fast food employee? It's come to a point where you're not supposed to take pride in your work, but strive to become deeper engrained in the system, where success is assured - like a moth to a flame.
People need to get their priorities straight regarding safeguarding their best interests, and it's not about turning against your neighbour. The idea is lunacy and disempowers everybody but those who profit off it.
Shit anyone working for less than $20 packing boxes is getting scammed cause I know for a fact several places offer more than that. It just goes to show the importance of having a union to bargain for higher wages.
The people who complain that "burger flippers" shouldn't get paid a living wage are the same people who loose their minds when they have to wait more that 3 mins for thier McDonald's order
Just like the movie Parasite, the working class fight each other 😔
Because packing boxes takes skill?
Divide and conquer.
Wonder how this guy feels about the garbage man making more than 16/hr with great benefits and retirement plan?
I think he is being sarcastic.
Judging from the skilled labor comment.
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