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Kendrick Lamar enters the tech space with a collaboration on the Light Phone 2. Light phones offer minimalistic experiences without apps or color.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 9 months ago

They all sold out and they are all packed in one dudes garage. The actual sale of them will take place over the next year over a series of ebay auction, as is tradition for limited edition things.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's $299, which isn't ridiculous for a phone, but this is kind of gimmicky with its Magic 8-Ball thing and, of course, its celebrity backing. I don't know, I guess it's not the worst price point, but considering you can get low-end Android phones for that with more functionality, I'm also guessing the people buying it are not really worried about the price.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Why not get a phone that can take, send, and receive pictures and video. It would also have maps, GPS, encrypted messaging, streaming music, audiobooks, e-books, home automation apps, ride hailing, food ordering, decent browser, etc.

Then, stay with me here, don't install social media apps. The lengths people go to so they can avoid social media when it is extremely avoidable is crazy to me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What you're doing here is subtly shifting the burden of phone addiction from software companies and phone manufacturers back onto end users.

You're glossing right over the fact that these teams have the very best software engineers, mechanical engineers, marketers, ad people, psychologists, and doctors for the purpose of making these endlessly scrolling apps as addictive and hard to avoid as possible.

I read your comment and think about the people who say "why are you depressed? Just go lift some weights. It all comes down to you"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

It's more like "Why are you smoking cigarettes, stop buying cigarettes." It's addictive, well marketed and cool, and totally avoidable with some self discipline.

I wouldn't joke about people with an actual illness by telling them to toughen up, but we're not talking about that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What you're doing here is subtly shifting the burden of phone addiction from software companies and phone manufacturers back onto end users.

I thought you were being satirical at first but then I realized you genuinely believe an individual has zero personal responsibility whatsoever. Lemmy is filled with children.

This isn't the housing market or alcohol, just don't install or doom scroll social media. Jesus Christ, nanny state garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Of course the burden is on both

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But what am I going to do while I'm pooping!? Read the news!?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The point is that it cannot do those things.

It's smaller, it's lighter, the battery will last way longer, and it doesn't run spyware.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Shit, you can buy a phone for £15 and I bet it's got snake on it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Make 100,000 of that phone and it will cost a lot closer to £15.

The bulk discounts on components and the PCB itself are pretty huge once you get up into the 10,000 qty. I've never had that pleasure. Only thing I've been involved with was a few hundred units.

Do a run in the 100k range and I imagine you're calling chip makers directly and making some insane deals.

But at only 250 units your PCB and expensive components like display and shell will still be quite expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is a Litephone 2 with a logo etched on the back. I don't know their overall numbers, but it's not just the 250 for this marketing gimmick.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you're quite clearly paying for the lack of features here.
Which makes the 8 ball even dumber.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, the 8 ball bothers me, as does the 'it's a dumb phone, but you can add a bunch of apps,' which is... a regular smartphone with no apps installed for the most part. The e-ink screen is unusual and interesting for a phone and I can see the appeal there, but the rest is kind of odd.

I'm guessing the majority of the phones were bought by people who are big fans of Kendrick Lamar. I sort of understand. An (impossible) equivalent to me would be if Stanley Kubrick came out with some piece of tech. I'd be sorely tempted to buy it just because I love Stanley Kubrick.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's only 250 made, that's why it sold out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hence “limited edition”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

So limited that it isn't even a whole phone!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It’s 30 dollars of technology.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is. Which is why it is so stupid that a company like Nokia or Motorola doesn't spend a little more on market research to totally own this market.

Or, maybe they did and partnered with Kendrick Lamar behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

maybe they did and partnered with Kendrick Lamar behind the scenes.

Litephone has been around for a while.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Considered this phone but couldn't commit to something like that, nor can I justify such a price tag for that. Instead I'm attempting to dumb down my phone. Moving to GrapheneOS and starting from the basics is definitely a good starting point.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate minimalism! This is a dumb phone that got rid of everything that made dumb phones charming.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

I love minimalism, but dumbphones are not functionally minimal. They do less and seem "simple", but you're offsetting necessary utility elsewhere. Mostly they require making compromises that don't need to be made if not for a little self-control.

A simple black rectangle is perfectly minimal. How you set them up is everything.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have owned the Light Phone 1 and the Light Phone 2 -- both were built with the intent to stay connected in a handful of ways without needing to have a full-spec'd, app-heavy, typically-sized smart phone.

If the intent and the vibe make sense to you, then it is a wonderful approach for a more 'minimalist' device: you can go outdoors, travel, hike, camp, etc., without having a smart phone to pick up and play with. I dig it.

If the intent and vibe don't make sense to you, the Light Phone may not be a good fit.

I really like the device, and use it often enough as a daily driver on weekends. Always glad to see some public attention on it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Ridiculous price for a dumb phone

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Let's be honest, he could sell poop in a ziploc bag and his fans would buy it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hardly text and your call is going to voice mail. Phone things are not the reason I have a smartphone. I'd be happy with an updated Palm Pilot with connectivity.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

One of the greatest rappers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Kendrik Lamar

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Since when is Light Phone "Kendrick Lamar's company"?

That explains why they're so damn expensive.

You could buy equally or more functional phones in the early 2000s for $100-200.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You can go buy one right now. These have been out for years.

https://www.thelightphone.com/shop/products/light-phone-ii-black

It just doesn’t say phalange or whatever on the back lol. So fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Missing lte band 71. Hope the buyers don’t have T-Mobile in an area that’s b71 only.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah the Light Phone 2 has been out for a while now. I saw it and thought "oh this is kind of interesting." Then I found out it has a shit radio and a shit battery. You'd think that it would last days and says on one charge but nope. Also it has USB-Micro for charging lol.

If they fixed a few things like that, I would be all over it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not so dumb if it has voice recognition...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Possibly for accessibility reasons? No point in shafting blind people just for a gag.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The Nokia 3310 had voice recognition...

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