Fediverse

@TheBenCrazy I am actually dumb here but feels like your argument is like this :
"The thief can still take your stuffs even if you lock your door, and in fact it would actually be more beneficials if you just welcome the thief with open arm and not lock your door at all."

@Techpriest

Sure Facebook's parent company Meta can scrape the content already because it's public but without federating their users cant bring in their toxic Instagram mentality into our places.

The worry about EEE is actually not my primary concern at the moment. And it's not data collection either, though I hate what Meta is doing there.

I'm not interested in Threads "content" on my front page here. And boy will it ever be all over the "All" page thanks to Threads users outnumbering all of the Fediverse by many magnitudes. The poor algorithm is not going to show you any new Lemmy content anymore with all the engagement Threads posts is going to get.

Then there are the comments in communities here. If you've felt happy that this community has better atmosphere and discussions than the dreg you'd be served on Reddit, just wait until we open the door for hundreds of millions of Facebook commenters.

I love the community that is building on Lemmy. If I wanted to participate in the community on Meta I'd be on Instagram or Facebook or Threads.

But I don't. That's why I'm here.

defederating meta would only hurt those that defederated

That's a bit too simplistic. Defederation has many consequences, some subtle. It depends on personal preferences wether the sum is beneficial. Specifically, some people see it as an advantage to not see content coming from Threads, and not share theirs with Threads.

way more users than people here think will want to see and manage Threads

I'm doubtful, but maybe. We don't have numbers on this.

We also don't need to reach a consensus. Maybe there is demand for instances which are defederated and demand for instances which are federated. People can choose where to have an account (which includes the option to have more than one account), people can try to inform themselves about an instance's policy, and they can try to influence an instance. This is all fine, fediverse working as intended.

Facebook can bootstrap their product with federated content made by users who are in the fediverse because they don’t want to support a company like Facebook. By not defederating, you would be helping Facebook every time you post a comment or make a post because you would be giving Facebook free content to further their for-profit goals.

Edit: they’ll also probably be taking fediverse content and displaying it with ads to monitize the content you all made.