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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It was designed to capture approximately 4,000 metric tons of carbon from the air per year, which, as one climate scientist, David Ho, put it, is the equivalent of rolling back the clock on just 3 seconds of global emissions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

first-of-its-kind demonstration plant

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

The article goes on to say that this plant isn't really intended to have any serious climate impact itself, it's more a small scale testbed to see how the technology works out in real world conditions and to try to improve and develop it further. So while it might be the world's largest plant of the type currently, that's only because nobody has actually built one on a useful scale yet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep. For CDR to make a meaningful difference we need to both scale it up, and get down to near zero fossil fuel use

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

indeed. this tech is best thought of as being in the R&D stage. we're gonna need enough clean energy to power ourselves and it too before it really makes a difference. we can throw excess renewables at it now, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Better 3 seconds than 0. We need everything we can to fight climate change if we are even going to have a chance of mitigating the damage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Net negative likely. How much CO2 was emitted to create this plant?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Per the article, building the plant generated about 15% of the CO2 it will remove. Operating it and downtime consume another 20% or so. It's still a net benefit...but a tiny one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Also yes - but frankly we're not in the position to just try one thing at a time, we're very much at the point where we need to do anything and everything we can - trees are practical for areas with lots of space, but for areas where space is a premium tech like this could work better once it matures

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Best we can do is WW3, sorry 😬