cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1085036
I personally feel as if its like polluting the fediverse!
I’d delete my account and join an instance that would defederate from corporations
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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I just started the use the fediverse to get away from Meta (I have a somewhat active Instagram) and Reddit.
Now unfortunately my userbase is going to threads without knowing what it even is. I'm trying to spread awareness about the fediverse but it's like yelling into the void. I signed up for threads and will continue to try to post content about the fediverse, but I also have to have an audience to share my art to as I'm trying to build some interest for a game I'm making.
This really sucks. I feel extremely upset about this whole meta thing. I could continue to try to build from scratch, but I am hoping to release the game next year and I already have 3 years head start on Instagram, it feels bad to also just abandon what I've worked hard on.
I dunno, I'm just venting. I hate Meta. I don't even have a actual Facebook account. Hell I didn't know Facebook owned Instagram until a year in.
I'll just try to continue to stay active on my fediverse accounts. And try to promote the fediverse on the centralized BS networks.
Hey man don't overthink it. You need a meta product for work or for a project, just use it professionally. You need to think about your own success and go where your audience is.
Now on your personal time if you don't want the toxicity of those places come to the fediverse and let's have a nice chat.
I think the goal of the fediverse is not to eat the world but on the contrary to give us alternatives so we can compartmentalize our internet life.
Thank you so much, seeing the whole threads thing ruined my day yesterday night and this morning. I felt like a sense of hopelessness for the future of decentralized platforms.
You're right, I can continue to use both for different purposes.
Thank you so much. Seriously!
Moved to Fediverse to get away from the data hoarding and selling that those types of companies partake in. Really hope most instances will defederate from threads and prevent Meta from collecting more data.
The instance I'm on has already preemptively defederated/blocked Threads.
I'm interested in seeing how the enshittification of Threads will unfold. It's all super neat and cozy right now with a clean UI, no ads, not many sign up nags, and such. When they build up their userbase, we'll see how the platform devolves.
It surely won't take long. I'm expecting a speedrun.
This is how it should work. I don't want to have to sign up on every different service. If people I want to follow choose to post stuff there that I want to read, I can do so from my Mastodon account.
Can somebody explain me exactly how defederating them would give us a different outcome?
I'm genuinely curious.
Meta couldn't give less fucks about 100k users on lemmy, they are targeting people that isn't and will never use nor understand what the fediverse is.
You keep them out, good. They don't care, they just want to fill their own bucket with stuff that is outside anyway
Twitter people going to threads is completely independent from anything in the fediverse. Those people won't even notice any difference if they are federated or not.
They are in for the brand and the fomo, not the content
I'm also concerned about the potential for embrace/extend/extinguish, but searching for other fediverse users and posts is enough of a hurdle that threads might end up naturally staying a fairly separate instance.
Honestly I don't think the fediverse is big enough for zuck to consider it a threat.
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
If Kbin or Lemmy allows them to federate with us, I'm out of here.
I felt the same way but then I read this and changed my mind about it https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/
Thinking about it I'm in an European country where Whatsapp is the default messenger app, if it had interoperability I could be on another FOSS app and be tracked by Meta just when I talk to people who are on Whatsapp and be free when talking to people not on Whatsapp, this could be great to make people switch "clients", which is damn hard now because "everyone is on Whatsapp". Interoperability is the shit and we should embrace it!
No, we should not embrace interoperability with them. Read this https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
Don't let them get the foot in the door. Preemptively block everything.
In addition, Facebook already had support for XMPP at some point in time but killed it.
Why? Because they couldn't dry users off other platforms after Google closed their own support for XMPP.
Even if Meta "play nice", we already know their aim. Siphon users off mastodon and then remove activityPub support when most servers are on life support from loss of users.
Embrace meta
Extend meta
Destroy meta
And is going to be defederated by everyone... They should put a hard-coded Meta blocker into activityhub...
Arbitrarily blocking an actor at the protocol level is directly contrary to the entire point of decentralized protocols in the first place.
I know, Meta bad, but the fact of the matter is that they probably won't be defederated by everyone, actually, because the idea of being able interact with your real friends and family and other people you know is going to be enticing.