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A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse.

However, people also say that it will help get ActivityPub and the Fediverse go more mainstream and say that corporations don't have that much influence on the Fediverse since people are in control of their own servers.

What a lot of posts have in common is that they want some kind of action to be taken, whether it'd be mass defederating from Threads, or accept them in some way that does not harm the Fediverse as much.

What actions can we take to deal with Threads?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (14 children)

As the fediverse grows, there will inevitably be more centralized instances. Every big tech corp may want to start their own instance, similar to how most tech corps provide their own mail services.

There are millions of email service providers, but Gmail and Outlook are synonymous to email for a large amount of people.

Defederating with Meta and Tumblr is like Protonmail blocking every mail from Gmail. You just cripple yourself and make your instance useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You make it sound like listening to the type of person who uses Threads is useful. Weird.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In order to compete in user experience we need to up our game. We need to set up communities which collect, categorize and funnel user requests upstream. These features should be focused on:

  • reducing frictions like unclear UI, broken links, etc.
  • improving usability of the various web frontends (the one from Lemmy, kbin, etc.)
  • collecting bug reports and making sure they will be fixed

This is meant to be a proxy between average users and tech enthusiasts who know how to do pull requests or open GitHub issues. Moderators of these communities would do it for them. This would enable us to gain visibility in the needs of the users.

This is only a part of what needs to be done, but I think this can be done quickly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think defederating is the only way forward, Facebook will take over otherwise even if they do it slowly.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I want nothing to do with meta or facebook.

If this gets serious I'm out of here as fast as I dumped reddit.

~tildes it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I feel like the EEE attack is inevitable at this point.

Why else would they even be willing to federate?

They saw the threat that decentralized non-profit social media is and want to kill it before it has a chance.

All Lemmy servers and especially the largest ones need to defederate from it immediately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They're "willing to federate" as an end-run around certain antitrust laws in the EU. By supporting ActivityPub, Meta has plausible deniability in claiming they're not a monopoly, despite being a de-facto monopoly being their final goal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In my opinion, nothing. If Meta is able to effectively take over Fediverse as people are claiming, then the Fediverse was never destined to survive to begin with. On to the next thing. This is the first real test of the resilience of this type of “decentralized social network”, and if it ends up going to shit, it would have eventually anyway.

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