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[–] [email protected] 244 points 9 months ago (35 children)

KDE: Welcome to Linux. Do you like the UI of Windows? Well we have an excellent offering for you if that’s your choice. There’s also other DEs that you may select from if that’s your choice.

Windows: Here’s an ad bitch, fuck your choice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wish Microsoft kept Windows as a paid product, instead of making it effectively free (with things like free upgrades from older versions) and sticking ads all over the place.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Um Windows 11 Home costs 145€ from ms directly... Free updates yeah, but I'm guessing that's so people aren't stuck without updates eventually.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Shouldn’t you lose your linux membership card for something like this?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Linux police officers come into your house, and they take your membership!

[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago

damn y’all don’t fuck around

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"This incident has been reported."

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In Soviet Russia, Arch BTW use you!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago

Yeah, Windows does really like to copy Plasma, don't they?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, I’m glad to see there’s other people who are reminded of Plasma by Win 11. As someone who never installed or used it the first time I saw someone using it I made a comment about them using Linux. Until I realized…

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft even copied KDE's motto "Simple by default, powerful when needed" in their Windows 11 announcement.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How is that legal?

eeh, right, MS's lawier army vs. KDE dev team. Right by money.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago

This is hilarious. It really cut me deep. I don't think I've seen Harold used in the Drake format like this either. The look of dejected shame is priceless.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (23 children)

Linux users realizing Windows is fine.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Windows is not “fine” aside from all the non-UI stuff, they’re UI is annoying and slow to me, they moved things behind extra clicks/commands to make it “clean”- stuff I actually use.

And then there’s the whole tracking usage to drop adds in your notification thing… which is a privacy nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (14 children)

I mean I'm cheering for Linux adoption too, but I've never received an ad beyond the initial install crapware app stubs. I do a sweep on the system settings, clean the junk, and I'm off to the races.

For the unsuspecting users, the privacy concerns are quite bad though.

[–] huskypenguin 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On win 10 that crapware would reinstall on every feature update.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

+1

i have to use microshite crap every day.
It outdoes oracle at generating curse words.
and it gets worse. i'd take windows 2000 or nt4 over whatever shit they force on me at work.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I got a goddamn pop-up ad for an XBox controller. That really says all you need to know. When there are advertisements in the operating system, the operating system is fired.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I loved it when windows recently started giving me Xbox achievements (aka ads for Xbox) notifications just for playing any PC game on my computer. Like I'm trucking along, playing a steam game, and Xbox game bar shit, just has to wake up from its slumber to say: we randomly noticed you played something on this computer! Have you considered Xbox today?

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[–] FierroGamer 35 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Eh, you only notice it when it's bad, most of the time for most users it's okay, though I generally argue they just make an unconscious decision to ignore most issues, even before trying out Linux I was flabbergasted at how people literally lose time and get flustered at a problem but then refuse to accept it as such.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tbh, I thought Windows was fine too, until I had to use it last summer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I installed it recently in a VM for something and my first thought was "what the fuck?". My last proper Windows installation was 7 and W11 is barely recognizable. The amount of preinstalled garbage alone really shocked me. The system menus have become even more convoluted too and I actually seriously struggled to find various settings. I remember the first attempt at re-categorizing the system settings in I think it was Vista but this is even worse.

Really made me appreciate Plasma even more.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Is most of the UI fine? Yes, absolutely. It's just the rest of the OS that sucks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Depends. what version of Windows? 10? I can agree for the most part that yeah, it's fine. Most users loved 7, I...never paid it much mind (mostly because it was good, i guess? Got nothing bad to say about it, at least) and 8 was...Windows 8.

Windows 11 tho? Eh....the UI's ok. I like it better than 10's, at least. Ish. But whose bright idea was it to limit the number of items in the context menu? Or to hide the ribbon that, again, shows you more options? Or basically force ya to make a Microsoft account to even use the thing? (there's apparantly a way to revert some of these things via messing with the Registry) Like, Windows 10 was fine like you said, dunno why 11 needed such drastic changes. And that's without mentioning ads or the habit Windows has of reverting some of the setting you set after an update (tho that was a thing since 10, tbf. Still annoying)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Eh, it's okay for most people, I guess. I am just not comfortable being the product. I want to be in control of the things I own.

There is no shortage of different programs that can neuter Windows telemetry and ads but they're always finding new ways to fuck your shit up and I'm done playing the game.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

you get ads in kde plasma?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The UI of Windows 11 is fine, at least visually. Windows 8-10 were mostly just ugly. When it comes to configuration options, they lose even against Plasma from a couple years ago.

I have a Mac like UI btw., there is no chance of confusing my Plasma with any Windows :P

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

make it like windows 2000 and i won't have a problem

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

And you can do that with kde.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Did KDE get a recent makeover? Last I saw, the window decoration still defaults to half rounded and half square. Devs can't decide which one they like.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Next makeover is in February with Plasma 6.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

How do you even not notice?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (14 children)

He though that new widget with all the advertisements was really nice, and was on the way to thank whoever cleaned his system removing 3/4 of the items on the start menu.

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