Why does everything blatantly illegal that a Republican do need to be caged as 'may' when it is clear as day that they did it?
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My best guess is they do this to prevent defamation lawsuits against themselves. The person can't come back and say XYZ news corp accused me of posting revenge porn and tarnished my reputation.
This is the exact answer. It's also the reason why, for example, most major news outlets refused to call Trump's lies "lies" for years. A word may have one meaning in everyday conversation, but has a completely different meaning that carries infinitely more weight in a court of law.
Tarnished their reputation by stating facts?
Seems like a reasonable defense.
It's not a fact until they are convicted.
So if I drive 100 mph through a school zone it isn't a fact until I'm convicted?
More specifically in cases of defamation, it would be on the news agency to show evidence (and that they had the evidence at the time) that what they wrote is true. Now whether they have the evidence is one issue, whether they want to reveal the evidence and by extension their sources is another. So even if the news agency has the evidence to back up its claims, it may still choose to throw in "may" and "allegedly" rather than to have to show these things in court.
It isn't, in this case. It says the law may have been broken. Until a prosecutor comes along and goes for an indictment, then the person is convicted, saying that they broke a law isn't a fact.
It's splitting hairs for casual conversation, but when it comes to making a public statement, you run into libel issues.
So, while it grumpy definitely is a fact that the pictures are released, and that she did so, no legitimate press is going to say she broke that law, only that she may have. If she's indicted, then they could say "charged with", or similar language. But until a jury in a criminal case renders a verdict, the press as a whole wouldn't be protected if they said she broke the law. Well, there's other things that would clear that language for use, but they still involve determination of guilt in the courts
Basically, it covers their ass.
I’m so fucking sick of hearing about hunter’s hog why the fuck are they STILL talking about it it’s been like three years
Because Republican men are obsessed with schlongs.
I don't think even gay men are as obsesses with schlongs as Republicans are.
I mean, it’s a good lookin hog.
I've heard abt this hog for years and I haven't seen a single picture of it!
I'm not sure it can fit into just one. He needs a two page spread at least.
So Hunter has his leaked nudes removed from Twitter. Conservatives saw this as an opportunity to claim a larger coverup. When nothing came to light and Hunter was found guilty of a few other charges they have resorted to literally just posting his leaked nudes.
I’m sorry but if this isn’t just one of the more revealing things about the GOP, I don’t know what is. Make something very normal and done by many people, including members of the GOP, and manipulate the facts to fit a narrative. Push that narrative to the extreme until Fox News reports it as FACT. Hope that wins a few votes in whatever upcoming election. When the initial info is revealed to be bullshit, the plan did its job.
Why post the nudes photos? Because some GOP didn’t get the hint that this was just political propaganda and are following through. The same reason Comet Pizza has been threatened with gun violence.
This is something I've noticed in recent years too - take something ordinary and normal, whip up a big frenzy over it, and then bask in the chaos.
Not just this but a lot of things. Usually it's some court procedure, some clerical process, something actually quite boring. I remember during the election they were getting mad over ballots being picked up by some guy in a van - well, that's the guy who picks em up
It's like getting mad at the mailman for delivering the mail. But you can dramatize anything - every single day a man who you probably don't even know drives around your neighborhood and stops at every single house. He has things which are your property and sometimes he even takes things out of your mailbox and puts them in a bag where you can't see them anymore, probably never again. And there's nothing you can do about it.
Usually it’s some court procedure, some clerical process, something actually quite boring. I remember during the election they were getting mad over ballots being picked up by some guy in a van - well, that’s the guy who picks em up
Remember that a woman and her daughter continue to have their lives turned upside down because one was caught on camera handing the other a mint, and the GOP have still not let it go to this day.
I’m not familiar with this one. What happened?
Edit: people, I’m out of the loop and would like someone to summarize what happened instead of giving me only one detail per post and making me guess the rest.
It's all in the January 6th hearings. While it was pushing a narrative the message was very clear and it's a shame that he's not being conducted on bigger shit yet.
Essentially Trump and Guliani intentionally called out these individuals as part of some secret operation. Now she seems her mother as well as many others like them are no longer public servants and they've had to move because people are crazy.
Can you give me a little more info? There was a mention during Jan 6 hearings that someone passed a mint, and GOP is now angry why?
They thought it was a flash drive. Basically making assumptions about a process they know most people know nothing about. The third hearing I think was the one in question.
Our politicians are so classy. Glad they can stay focused on the important shit.
Goddamn morons.
Only a republican can be so invested in another man's cock and still try to say they aren't LGBT.
The entire party is ill.
Oh God, what I would give to see one of these loons to get convicted because of Hunter BS.
I will guaran-fucking-tee you that even if she were charged with disseminating revenge porn, it would immediately be twisted by the GOP to say that the prosecution is an entirely political move against a "whistleblower" who was releasing information on "the Biden Crime Family" that Biden was trying to cover up.
This is what our political and legal system has come to.
I would love for it to happen too, but not gonna happen. Democrats are too cowardly to go after these right wing clowns.
This is similar to the issue where Republican politicians are shipping people who crossed the border illegally to MA and CA and DC. Democrats should be going after those clowns who organized all this with human trafficking and other crimes, but they won't because Dems just want to the issue to go away. But because Dems always back down, Republicans are emboldened to do it again and again.
This isn't up to "Democrats"
It wholly contingent on the if the AZ Attorney General, a single human being that won her election by 280 votes, thinks that a crime was committed. Maybe we should give her office ((602) 542-5025) a call?
Also, FYI, a criminal investigation has been opened in Texas regarding the DeSantis kidnapping conspiracy.
I'll be shocked California doesn't end up doing the same.
EDIT: Oh look, California is doing the same. I guess your rant is pointless.
It is ALWAYS cowardly Democrats who aren't willing to push the issue.
If the issues were flipped, you better believe Republicans would have some way to escalate and prolong the topic. Even if the end result was nothing, they would have drummed up some BS charges. While not the same thing, look at what they did with B E N G H A Z I. They strung that non-issue for literally years, dragged Hillary in front of congress for hours and hours. They turned it into such an issue in the news that even today average people think "something" went down with Hillary there and those hooked on Fox definitely think it was a huge crime and cover-up.
To Republicans, it doesn't matter if an issue is legitimate or even if they have any authority to investigate it. It is all about creating a massive frenzy which corporate media will take and run with it and blow it up even further. This is how Republicans poison the well when it comes to getting people to swear off ever even considering voting Team Blue.
While not the same thing, look at what they did with B E N G H A Z I. They strung that non-issue for literally years, dragged Hillary in front of congress for hours and hours. They turned it into such an issue in the news that even today average people think “something” went down with Hillary there and those hooked on Fox definitely think it was a huge crime and cover-up.
And nothing you're complaining about can prevent that from happening again.
Meanwhile, back in reality, both California & Texas are investigating these events & the Federal DoJ is as well for all you know. No one had any idea they were going to federally indict the cops that killed Breonna Taylor until they did it. A legitimate DoJ doesn't broadcast an investigation.
What a fucking nut job.
Cocaine is a hellava drug.
If this is one of the actual pictures, you should not be sharing this.
Why not? That's an amazing scarf!
So we can guess Giuliano’s story about Hunter’s laptop is a lie. But did we ever find out how that info got out. Was his iCloud hacked, was his laptop stolen?
The most likely is that his accounts were hacked and the files were planted on a computer along with faked emails and documents. The computer was then passed around by the right wing kook-o-sphere. When the FBI told them they wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole because of all the chain of custody issues with the computer they disposed of the actual hardware and went with plan B which we're living through now: Just pretend like they were right all along.
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