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Well I'm craving something in this genre but I'm a bit overwhelmed and underwhelmed at the same time. So many titles and yet I'm not sure what to read. Maybe you can help?

I'm looking for something in a high fantasy setting. I'm not too keen on heavy politics and war driven plots (though, I can read that ). What really gets me is interesting characters, good action and magical creatures.

I've loved anything Discworld and I've also enjoyed the First Law books by Abercrombie.

I'm finding that Tolkien, Sanderson and George RR Martin appear on every fantasy list I come across, so if you do recommend something I'd appreciate it be something other than that.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I highly recommend the Earthsea book by Ursula Le Guin (I actually recommend all of her books) and the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser by Frtiz Lieber. Especially if you are looking for something that is a quick read and not a 20 book, 50 billion page series.

Also the Drizzt novels by R. A. Salvatore, while not the same level of quality, are fun.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read only The left hand of Darkness by Le Guin and I totally didn't cry, you understand? If at any point anyone tells you that, they're disgusting liars trying to tarnish my reputation. That aside, I really enjoyed the book and Earthsea was on my list of potential reads. I've never heard of the other recommendations, will keep in mind. Thanks

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I recently reread The Dark Elf Trilogy after a long, long time and I still quite liked it. It's funny how differently I see the themes of the first book now than I did as a teenager.

I also remember Weis and Hickman's Draconlance Chronicles trilogy being a fun read back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Ursula K. Le Guin's Earthsea series is a good one. Unlike most authors in this genre who tend to be overly descriptive and feel the need to develop the lore of every squirrel in the kingdom, Le Guin writes really tight, well thought stories, where every word is important to the story.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

None of the suggestions above talk about comedy fantasy. Is there anyone close to the master? GNU

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Name of the Wind By Patrick rothfuss.

Still waiting on that third book 5o come out though. It's only been 17 years. It'll happen any day now. 🥲

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My luck it'll come out the day after I die.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You might want to look at Robin Hobbs' work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

My personal favorites are the Assassin series, starting with Assassin Apprentice by Robin Hobb.

Some of the best most heartfelt characters I have read in any modern fantasy, with a brilliantly unique type of magic and adventure. There is some political intrigue, especially within the first trilogy, but it isn't overly burdened by it.

The whole series has continued to be a heavily character driven emotional roller coaster that I would love to be able to forget just so I could read them again for the first time.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

+1 for Cradle already mentioned. I'd add

  • The Riyria Revelations by Michael J. Sullivan
  • Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of good recommendations here. I'll just leave some +1s for a few I've seen here that I've enjoyed.

Blacktongue Thief: A thief tries to rob the wrong warrior and gets wrapped up in a quest to a distant land besieged by giants. The first of a trilogy, but the ending gives you enough closure to be a standalone read while also setting up where the story will go. Personally, I enjoyed the first-person narration which gives you a colorful look at a somewhat non-conventional fantasy world, although it's still fantasy. If you liked Abercrombie then you might like this. There's a similar focus on flawed characters trying to do the best they can. There is some war and politics but they are firmly in the background and far from the main focus.

Legends and Lattes: A retired adventurer opens up a coffee shop in a land that has never heard of coffee. I'm not sure if "cozy fantasy" was a thing before this book, but it's been held up as an archetypal example. The plot is low-stakes and focuses on the characters and the difficulties of running a small business. Makes a good palate-cleanser between denser reads. No war or politics.

Kings of the Wyld: A retired group of adventurers has to come together for one last job after their leader's daughter ends up trapped in a city besieged by monsters. Admittedly how much you enjoy this one depends on how novel you find the idea of adventuring groups being treated as rock and roll groups. Like literally being a stand-in for rock and roll bands with groupies, managers, and all of that. I've seen some criticism that the book doesn't have much going for it beyond that which is a bit unfair. Following a bunch of middle-aged heroes past their prime was refreshing and I think the author did some interesting things with the main character who only uses a shield in combat and whose main motivation is to make it back to his wife and daughter in one piece. Very little war and politics.

Also, I don't think he's been recommended but you might want to check out Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire trilogy. Admittedly it's not typical high fantasy and it is somewhat heavy on war and politics, but if you liked the grittier, grounded feel of Abercrombie then you might like it. It is arguably darker though and the main character straddles the line between dark anti-hero and outright villain protagonist for at least the first book. But it might be worth checking out if you really liked the First Law trilogy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Glory Road' by Robert A. Heinlein. Takes all the common fantasy tropes and kicks them in the nads.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I love how the other races don't trust Humans, because we are always in "mating season" and they lose their minds during theirs, so assume we are always loopy because of ours.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Does Stormlight Archive count?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you can get past the first 700 pages of book one then yes.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll add a +1 to some mentioned:

  • Cradle series - progression fantasy, basically DBZ or Naruto style progression with a magic system, intelligent beasts/dragons, demigods, etc.
  • Night Angel Trilogy - street rat turned assassin with magic. I feel like it leans pretty heavily into fantasy tropes, but they're fun reads.
  • Kings of the Wyld - this book is fucking hilarious. The main characters are basically a kickass D&D group but it's 20 years later, they're old and fat, and have to go on one last epic adventure.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The Inheritance Cycle by Christopher Paolini! I've read it too many times. It's a really good hero's journey and the characters are all really interesting. Plus it's focused on dragons and magic and elves and dwarves, lots of cool creativity that goes on in the world. And I just really enjoy Paolini's world-building. He's very good at it and it stays consistent. There are two wars that I remember, one is a small-scale thing that sets a lot of events in motion, and the other is the big climax at the end of the series. It's my favourite series next to The Dark Tower. I'd highly recommend it!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It isn't so much dragons, but it it is fantasy. The Cradle series by Will Wight is phenomenal. If you're a fan of audio books they are all available in that format also, narrated by Travis Baldree

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard the Wheel of Time stuff is pretty good. Piers Anthony's Xanth novels were popular long ago, but he has sort of disappeared (I just looked him up, and he's probably just retired). I've personally read the Black Cauldron books and enjoyed them quite a bit. Robert Aspirin's Myth books can be fun. Hopefully there is something new to you in that list!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I advocate to expand people's thinking of the fantasy genre beyond the usual Euro-centric elves, dwarves, and wizards type stuff.

As such, a fantasy book I recommend is based off of Persian magic and setting is called The Wrath and the Dawn. It is based off of the Arabian Nights legend of that region.

Well, my other recommendation is not a book because it was a web comic, BUT, it fits the fantasy genre. What makes it unique is the fantasy elements are based off of Aztec gods and magic. It is called Leyendas: https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/leyendas/list?title_no=63874

There is another fantasy web comic with middle eastern elements called Suihira The City of Water: https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/suihira-the-city-of-water/list?title_no=39385

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

David Gemmell's Legend.

He was from a rough upbringing and thought he was going to be dying of cancer and wrote a book about an aged hero of old who was now past his prime.

It was a misdiagnosis and he went on to write a lot more.

They are all excellent, and different enough from what you normally end up reading in the genre to be worth a look. There's a bit of a more rawness to his books I really enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So many suggestions possible with that prompt.

I might suggest the Vlad Taltos series, starting with Jhereg, by Steven Brust. Reaslistic characters, snappy dialog, interesting premise of human's status in the society, and a pretty far-out series of villains. It comes down to more or less a first person assassin- / intrigue-based plot with cleverly set-up who-dunnit elements here and there, and an overarching storyline, and a good sense of the universe.

Some good suggestions in this thread. If you want even more options - I have been tapping into this Slashdot thread for a decade now, and it's still giving me winners - which might not work for you, mind (e.g ."Little, Big" by Crowley, it led me to "To Reign in Hell" also by Brust, "Jack of Shadows" by Zelazny,)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tad Williams - Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy. On par with Tolkien and Martin IMHO

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eyes of the dragon by Stephen King. Its an excellent fantasy novel ... Not a horror novel. The antagonist, Flagg, is the same wizard in the dark tower series and the stand, though those don't have dragons and such in them.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Powder Mage trilogy is kind of fun. The setting is more late 18th/early 19th century than medieval, and it is far from perfect, but a bit of French revolution era fantasy with magic and gods and stuff never hurt anyone.

China Miéville's New Crobuzon series must qualify as fantasy somehow. It's New Weird, but you have weird magic and grotesquely weird fantasy races living in a fantasy world, so it must count. Also, because Miéville is some flavor of trotskyist you get a fantasy world written from some kind of Marxist perspective, but because it is a fictional world where Stalin never existed you don't have to read 50 pages about how every successful socialist revolution was never real.

What I've read of Robin Hobb has been fun, but it's been more than a decade so take that recommendation with a pinch of salt.

You could also hate read David Eddings, a child abusing drunk of a hack author who hated the genre of fantasy and all of its readers. That's what I'm doing, because I want to examine my childhood idol more closely. This is a bad idea and will not improve your life in any way, but it is something you could do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm curious about the last paragraph. You see, I found an Eddings audiobook and I started with it, considering I've seen the name recommended here a few times. I've been thinking it's well written but also really really boring. Is this why you say he hated the readers? Have you figured why he achieved idol status for you during your childhood?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really liked the Night Angel series, The Way of Shadows is the first book.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is it safe to assume you've read the name of the wind and wise man's fear? HURRY UP AND FINISH YOUR SERIES ROTHFUSS, please

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The Diamond Age kinda counts?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hm, not keen on heavy politics or war. Was gonna recommend Malazan: Book of the Fallen but the first book starts out in a war. Still, good book, you might enjoy it.

Second book is a little different than what you're describing. Fool Moon from the Dresden Files series. Pulpy magical detective noire set in modern times, where magic is sort of accepted as a real thing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Malazan book of the fallen is the best epic fantasy series I've ever read

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Memory, Sorrow, & Thorn series by Tad Williams is my all time favorite. I also noticed that I relate to different characters as I age which makes rereading it a fun experience.

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[–] Sharklaser 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Magician,and searching this I see they're making a TV series, 🤯

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magician_(Feist_novel)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Myth Books by Robert Aspirin.

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[–] tired_lemming 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Patricia C Wrede. The Enchanted Forest Chronicles. The titles for the series are below:

  • Dealing with Dragons
  • Searching for Dragons
  • Calling on Dragons
  • Talking to Dragons

Fantasy stories with each book centered around one protagonist and a meta take of your usual fairy tales. And includes wizards, dragons, princesses too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Currently rereading the Belgariad and will likely go straight into the Mallorean. Probably my favourite "traditional" fantasy series.

But my all time favourite fantasy series is The Death Gate Cycle by Weiss and Hickman. But is very much not your traditional fantasy setup. It's got wizards, dragons, elves, etc... but in very very non-traditional worlds. Can't recommend it enough.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Legends and Lattes might be some easy lovable reading if you're looking for low stakes character-driven fantasy. It's very low on action, but there is some.

A former adventuring hero orc swordsman decides to retire to open a coffee shop, collecting a cast of local misfits to help make her dreams a success. It's light but basically D&D meets Stardew Valley if that makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Robert Jordan, Terry Goodkind, david eddings are all good too, and unfortunately all have passed away so dont expect more books!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Michael Moorcock's Elric books tick all of the boxes in your list. So do his Corum and Hawkmoon books.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Lots of good suggestions already. I might recommend Uprooted by Naomi Novik, The Story of Silence by Alex Myers, or The Haunting of Tram Car 015 by P. Djeli Clark.

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