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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 171 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 95 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And the best of all... Uwuntu

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

still the best os/distro of all time is hanah montana os

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

It's Hannah you unwashed pleb!

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Linux users really are like vegetarians/vegans - they want you to join them and when you do, then they judge you for not being vegetarian/vegan enough

[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, CrossFit?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago

A vegan, a Linux user, and a 'pol sci major' walk into a bar. They are the same person. Oh dear, they won't shut up. There is no god here now. I think my ears have started to bleed. Run...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I wish to believe it's just the loud 1% with both.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'll have you know my friend has a pal who uses arch

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Tbh, I don't really get the hate that Ubuntu gets.

I mean, I do understand that people don't like some of the decisions made with Ubuntu (e.g. snap), but especially for people who don't use an OS for the sake of using that OS and just want to use their PC to get stuff done, Ubuntu/Kubuntu are quite good.

You have a mostly consistent UI that can do most important configs without touching CLI. Manuals and simple guides are easy to find, even in other languages than English (which is important for quite a big number of people outside the US).

And contrary to some other, smaller distros, Ubuntu isn't run by just 1-2 people and you can trust in it still existing in 10 years. (Obviously, this is true for many other distros, but some quite widly used distros are run just by a tiny team of hobbyists)

I mean, I'd get the reaction if someone claimed they are Linux users because they use Android (though with enough knowledge you can also get a full Linux distro running on Android in chroot).

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (5 children)

"Use Snaps"
"No" (installs .deb)
"Fuck you, use Snaps"
(The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box that updates your snaps without asking and every part of this statement was a deliberate planned feature by Canonical)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mentioned this in the comment you answered to. But as I said, this might be an issue for people that use Linux because they really hate anything that isn't GPL, but 97% of the people on this planet care more about whether something is simple to use than what license it uses, as evidenced by the market share of Windows, Android, Chromebooks and Apple products.

Wouldn't it be better to get some of them to use Ubuntu with snaps than to stay on their proprietary platforms, because packet management sucks and conflicts are basically impossible to solve for someone who's not a software developer?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Linus swore that Bitkeeper wouldn't alter the agreement further, like a mad egotistical movie villain.
Canonical is very clearly funneling their userbase towards a Snap-only environment (something that already exists as an option).
As the sole keyholders, and as a for-profit business, what is the next step?

Is it to maintain a wealth of options, even when that cuts into profit margins? What about when those options are competing products (think Gnome and KDE back in the Unity days)?
These things just do not make sense from a business perspective, and they will not be necessary once their userbase is locked into the Snap walled garden.

As to your point about licenses and market share, default non-options and limited choices aren't compatible with conversations about choice.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box

Every part of the snap store running on your computer is open source.

that updates your snaps without asking

If you don't want your snaps auto-updating, turn auto updates off. snap --help

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I looked into it. You're right.
They implemented the ability to permanently hold all automatic updates.
After five years of debate during which they consistently claimed that the whole point of Snaps is that developers can push whatever, whenever.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think they get hate because Canonical is a commercial entity.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I really don't like that sentiment though. Software development isn't for free just because you slap GPL on it. These devs need to be paid somehow if they are supposed to do more than 3h/week.

You can also see the same thing in the Linux kernel. Many Kernel devs are employed by Microsoft, Google, the NSA and many other commercial entities.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love the idea of developers getting paid. Let's do more of that.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Yeah I quit Ubuntu after 12 years but I still recommend it for people trying to change OS ..it's great OS

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Tubuntu, Hubuntu, Dubuntu, Pubuntu, Vuduntu, Jubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Ubuntu, Ubuntree, Ubunfur, Ubunfi, Ubunsi, Ubunsenn, Ubunnet, Ubu-9, Ubuten, Ubuntulovin, Ubuntwelve

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about Ubuntu off-shoots to dispute it.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Debian. There is only debian.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

Off the top of my head:

  • Ubuntu
  • Mint
  • MX
  • Debian
  • Devuan
  • Pop!_OS
  • Zorin
  • Kali
  • Fedora
  • Red Hat
  • CentOS
  • OpenSUSE
  • Rocky
  • Alma
  • Arch
  • Blackarch
  • Parrot
  • Manjaro
  • EndeavorOS
  • Garuda
  • Gentoo
  • Alpine
  • Puppy
  • Tinycore
  • PostmarketOS
  • Tails
  • Slackware
  • LFS (sort of)
  • Yocto (sort of)
  • Raspbian
  • Raspberry Pi OS
[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I never forget Glorious Leader^TM OS

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Hannah Montana!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Now name 10 distros that aren't based on each other. And yes I'm counting the *buntus as being based on Debian.

If you look at the famous lineage graph there's a fill out there but barely any reinvention of the wheel (not that that's a bad thing).

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Arch, Fedora(Red Hat), Debian, Linux from scratch, Suse.

Goddammit!! That's harder than I thought it would be. Then again I'm a relatively new Linux user, I've only used it since 2005. 😋

Edit:
Arh stupid me forgot an obvious one, Gentoo.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Without looking at timeline linked above:

  • NixOS
  • Slackware

We still have 2 missing...

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hannah Montana Linux!

Its not what we deserve, but Its all what we need.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think this is the wrong meme.

The Brooklyn 99 meme of "that was my fault" would have been much more apt.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's on me, I set the bar too low

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fuck snap. I quit Ubuntu after using it more than any other distro since 6.04. Debian 12 has been awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Ubuntu with KDE = Kubuntu

Ubuntu with LXDE/LXQT = Lubuntu

Ubuntu with XFCE = Xubuntu

Ubuntu with Gnome ... Where is Gubuntu?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

It's a silent G

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

The best jokes make you a little bit angry while also making you laugh

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Let's see... Off the top of my head: Debian, Ubuntu, yiffOS, Arch, Gentoo, Red Hat, OpenSUSE, Mint, Fedora, Tiny Linux, Mandriva, CrunchBang, Raspbian.

Also I'm a windows user c:

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

TIL about yiffOS lmfao

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
  • Raspi
  • Hanna Montana
[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Fedora, Redhat, Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Linux mint, Arch, Suse, Slackware, Centos, Manjaro, Scientific linux, Pinguy os, Sabayon, Linux from scratch, Puppy linux

Do I get a prize?

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