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Having a debate with an Italian guy about who is the bigger club and I think it's close.

Both have won their domestic league 19 times and Milan have 1 more Champions League.

Milan probably have more well known legends like Van Basten, Kaka, Maldini, Gullit and Pirlo. But in recent years Liverpool have had Gerrard, Suarez, Alonso, VVD and Salah.

The current popularity of the Premier League helps Liverpool but Milan also has a huge fanbase.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Gerrard, Suarez, Alonso, VVD and Salah.

None of them go into a best 11 of the two clubs since berlusconi bought Milan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

AC Milan

Liverpool are huge but Milan are bigger

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Liverpool’s more famous and has more fans. A lot of that’s because the Prem is much bigger world wide than Serie A. For example, Liverpool’s got 3x more followers on Instagram.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Milan has a bigger stadium, better known legends, play in an affluent city, and has great history and traditions.

Liverpool is worth billions more , has more fans, and is better on the pitch. They also have the history and traditions.

It's a tough question to answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

besides maldini who are milan’s well know (e.g. household name) legends? definitely think liverpool has more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How old are you? Don't mean it as a bad thing, but there's so many legendary names that played for Milan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole 2005 milan are well known legends

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which is ironic because Liverpool beat them in the final that year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Milano Generation comprised of Marco van Basten, one of the greatest strikers of all time, Ruud Gullit, who could play every position on the pitch except keeper, Frank Rijkaard, one of the two greatest defensive midfielders of all time, Paulo Maldini, the greatest full-back of all time, Franco Baresi, one of the greatest centre-backs of all time, managed by Arrigo Sacchi, the founder of pressing and later manager Fabio Capello, who won the Scudetto unbeaten in his first season succeeding Arrigo, is frequently considered the greatest club team in the 20th century and sometimes the greatest team of all time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What the fuck

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is the prosperity of the city they play in relevant?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I’m not sure where the “bigger legends” thing is coming from. Souness, Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Hansen and Keegan are some of the best players to ever play in England.

Then there’s the semi-recent players like Gerrard, Carragher, Owen, Fowler, Suarez and Alonso who were all great players. Even more recent there’s Mane, Firmino and Coutinho who are some of the best to play in the Premier League. Currently there’s Alisson, Van Dijk and Salah who are all time greats.

I’m sure you could do a similar list for Milan and I’m not saying Liverpool’s legends are definitely “better”, but I don’t think the conversation can just be brushed under the carpet.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah shit, why would you ask something so heart wrenching.?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I honestly think it’s Liverpool comfortably.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The bigger question is why anyone thinks this is important?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think I probably depends how old you are, for the modern era I would say Liverpool

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Alonso, VVD and Salah? If you count them, you need to mention a lot more Milan's players like Sedorf, Cafu, Baresi, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Nesta... I probably missed quite a few.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Milan have more legends and more iconic players but Liverpool are the bigger club. Both similarly decorated but Liverpool have a far bigger fan base. Milan's history is just factually cooler tho. Idc who you are

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of the Liverpool legends would even touch the Milan legends bench

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Milan all day. From a totally unbiased manu supporter.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m an AC Milan fan and I’d still say Liverpool tbh

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BoringPhilosopher1

You are very active on the Liverpool reddit page for being a Milan fan lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Milan is more than football (fashion design, business, fast cars, facism/mussoini etc).. While Liverpool is purely football (if you look away from 4 guys who made a band in the 50s/60s). That makes Liverpool FC a bigger name in Liverpool than AC Milan would be in Milan. Liverpool is famous because of its football club, while Milan is not.

To some degree you can say that Liverpool are one of those town/cities that is famous because of its football.. Milan would have had a name anyways. Visiting Anfield is one of Liverpools (the city's) main-attraction, while san siro is not a main attraction of Milano..That's the difference. Football is everything in Liverpool, while in Milano it's just one of several thing.. So howcome Milan be a bigger club, when they're not even the most important thing in the city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Beatles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Milan and it’s not even close

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Milan is a bigger club. Liverpool is more popular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Milan are famous for their style of play back in the glorious periods with the Flying Dutch, Arrigo Sacchi, Fabio Capello, Carlo Ancelotti...etc. In terms of football, it did make difference with Liverpool whose football identity is an unknown. Personally, I've never heard of Liverpool style of play.

Regarding other stuffs, it's difficult to compare Milan vs Liverpool since they're both ones of the biggest clubs in the world

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Milan. 2nd biggest club in the world.than bayern, than barca, than Liverpool

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Milan is slightly bigger since it has more Champions League wins than Liverpool, thus being more traditional and having more continental presence. You can say that Liverpool had more recent success, but recent success does not make a club big (Looking at you, Blue Manchester).

The fact that Serie A is not as big as the Premiership (this now, because the Serie A was huge in the 90's) should not be something to consider, it's not Milan's choice to be on that league or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The big historic 7 European Supergiants are Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus and AC Milan.

Real Madrid are probably top of that list but there's arguments about the order of the other 6.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would argue ajax and inter milan are among these supergiants as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ajax easily goes there, at the very top, you could easily make a case for them being a bigger club than barcelona. Barcelona didnt have an european cup until 1992, when ajax had 3, and they were one of the best teams in european history

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there is no discussion Real Madrid is at the top.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would we really call United a historic Euro Supergiant?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arsenal is bigger than Juve and Milan

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Very similar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liverpool is a much bigger name worldwide. The premier league is much more difficult to win than the Italian league. Anyone know the fan base numbers ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone under the age of 20 would say Liverpool. Anyone in-between 20-40 would say Milan. Anyone above the age of 40 would probably say either Liverpool or Milan depending on how much they valued each legendary player/teams of back in the days. It's a tie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's an argument that in this century, Milan aren't even the more dominant club in their own city, let alone country or beyond.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Liverpool would most likely have another European Cup or two if not for Heysel. They single moment set english football back massively till 1999.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Milan is. Also calling VVD a club legend already its pretty funny tbh, also Suarez..like he barely played there and won like nothing..like they werent even in the top 3 in the PL standings. Sure he had goals but hes a Barca legend not a Liverpool one imo.

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Italian clubs are hugely underrated. In this case I'm taking Milan all the way

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Italian clubs are hugely underrated. In this case I'm taking Milan all the way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say Liverpool. But i live in Ireland

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Numbers wise, I'd say Liverpool is the bigger club, but Milan has made it's mark in football history more. The reason Liverpool has more fans is because it's a big Premier League club, both with the Premier League being the biggest and because of the influence of English people in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not a Liverpool fan or anything but I'd put them alongside Real Madrid, Man U and Barca as the most popular team in the world from a legacy standpoint. Milan for sure up there but not to the same level

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