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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are watching millions of lives being asphyxiated between the ocean and barbed wire fences, all to appease a people who have spent their lives waiting for this moment with bated breath.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you mean when you say "a people"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“A people” is a way of referring to a group of people, a society. You could be more specific and say “the Jewish people” but it’s the same usage.

Someone in fact called Palestine “A land without a people for a people without a land.”

Is it making more sense now?

*fixed autocorrect error

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You couldn’t say that.

You could say “the Israeli people”. What is going on here is not the actions of Jewish people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

God... Israel's siege plunged you into darkness too

[–] prettybunnys 3 points 1 year ago

now they’ve gone too far

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A good way to get around paywall is putting the link into the Internet Archive

It's what I normally do and I think the more people who know about it the better

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for that! I hadn't realised, and was wondering why people share those types of links.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Happy to help 👍

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like the area they were told to evacuate to got hit the most.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Gaza is one big kill box.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The night is dark and full of state terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hiring their war crimes away from reporters and social media.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How mean of them not to live stream brutal murder like Hamas does. You might have to find something else to jerk off to, then.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

They like to murder civilians without evidence like the Nazi cowards that they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s plunged Israel into metaphorical darkness.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The United Nations said this week that a desalination plant in the territory could stop running, leaving people without clean drinking water.

Even before Friday’s blackout, the lack of power and reduced internet access had already further isolated Palestinians in Gaza, making it harder for them to stay in contact with one another and with the outside world.

“We can barely write a text message to reassure our loved ones about our well-being,” said Alaa Ahmed, 20, a medical student.

Its sole power plant is operated by diesel fuel that typically enters the enclave from the Karem Shalom crossing, which is currently closed.

“I miss taking a hot shower and diving into a bathtub full of water,” said Shayma Ahmed, 20, a student at the Islamic University of Gaza, which Israel bombed last week.

“I miss having a proper meal with my family and then having my favorite dessert, brownies, which I loved to make with my sister using our electric oven,” she said.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I miss my life as it was before

This sucks. I'm a very pro-Israel person. I still don't want civilians to suffer. On the other hand, that before she mentions is before the government elected by people there perpetrated the third largest terrorist attack in history. It'd be real great if there were something ... Like... Soldiers to keep the peace maybe... That would guard things like fuel so it isn't stolen or hospitals so that hospitals built by say a union of nations or something aren't used in rocket attacks.

I miss the days when a 2 state solution seemed imminent. Gaza being demobilized was supposed to be a stepping stone to exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The last elections in Gaza were held in 2006. 70% of people in Gaza are 30 or younger, meaning they would have been 13 or younger during that election. I don't believe the 2006 election can be held up as proof that the current population of Gaza asked for this government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well then you should be mad at Netanyahu for propping up Hamas and backing up the west bank settlers, which ruined the last attempt at a peace deal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gaza being demobilized was supposed to be a stepping stone to exactly that.

The disengagement from Gaza is purely a political one, to make sure the demographic of Israel maintain at what they desired. After the disengagement, Israel still maintain the air and maritime space. This is where the "Gaza is essentially an open air prison" talking point coming from. Read it up on Wikipedia, it gave the whole picture and also what happened afterward.

In 2014 peace talk between Israel and Palestine(or rather, Palestine Authority, the Fatah, Hamas's political opposition, and the government for West Bank and some Gaza administration stuff), Palestine demand them to respect the Green Line, evict the illegal settler from West Bank, and also release their prisoner, where Israel refused. For the whole course of the talk, Israel only fulfill the release of prisoner, but continued to announce new settlement in West Bank, completely ignore the demand by Palestine. The talk fall apart when Fatah reconciliation with Hamas, as Netanyahu refused to work with Hamas. US, in anonymous interview, blame Israel for that, while the official statement blame both. Do read it up, as it contain a huge load of detail from both side.

In 2017, when Hamas announced their new charter that they only want their Green Line back, Netanyahu in respond called it propaganda and refuse to acknowledge that, US ridicule that because they didn't mention recognising Israel as a country.

Netanyahu destroyed the two state solution long ago, the latest Hamas attack is the last straw that break the camel's back.