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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I miss my life as it was before

This sucks. I'm a very pro-Israel person. I still don't want civilians to suffer. On the other hand, that before she mentions is before the government elected by people there perpetrated the third largest terrorist attack in history. It'd be real great if there were something ... Like... Soldiers to keep the peace maybe... That would guard things like fuel so it isn't stolen or hospitals so that hospitals built by say a union of nations or something aren't used in rocket attacks.

I miss the days when a 2 state solution seemed imminent. Gaza being demobilized was supposed to be a stepping stone to exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The last elections in Gaza were held in 2006. 70% of people in Gaza are 30 or younger, meaning they would have been 13 or younger during that election. I don't believe the 2006 election can be held up as proof that the current population of Gaza asked for this government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well then you should be mad at Netanyahu for propping up Hamas and backing up the west bank settlers, which ruined the last attempt at a peace deal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gaza being demobilized was supposed to be a stepping stone to exactly that.

The disengagement from Gaza is purely a political one, to make sure the demographic of Israel maintain at what they desired. After the disengagement, Israel still maintain the air and maritime space. This is where the "Gaza is essentially an open air prison" talking point coming from. Read it up on Wikipedia, it gave the whole picture and also what happened afterward.

In 2014 peace talk between Israel and Palestine(or rather, Palestine Authority, the Fatah, Hamas's political opposition, and the government for West Bank and some Gaza administration stuff), Palestine demand them to respect the Green Line, evict the illegal settler from West Bank, and also release their prisoner, where Israel refused. For the whole course of the talk, Israel only fulfill the release of prisoner, but continued to announce new settlement in West Bank, completely ignore the demand by Palestine. The talk fall apart when Fatah reconciliation with Hamas, as Netanyahu refused to work with Hamas. US, in anonymous interview, blame Israel for that, while the official statement blame both. Do read it up, as it contain a huge load of detail from both side.

In 2017, when Hamas announced their new charter that they only want their Green Line back, Netanyahu in respond called it propaganda and refuse to acknowledge that, US ridicule that because they didn't mention recognising Israel as a country.

Netanyahu destroyed the two state solution long ago, the latest Hamas attack is the last straw that break the camel's back.