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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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What's your plan to achieve this objective?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

My understanding of why a lot of people come to communities like this is that... We could be living in a post-scarcity society. There is enough. We just don't distribute it. We prioritize growing the wealth of a few dozen insanely rich people with the labor of everyone else. Which means we prioritize making the majority of people work shit jobs for next to nothing doing jobs of dubious value to society.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's a few options I have...

Save as much as possible and take it all to much cheaper countries. Vietnam, Indonesia, etc you can live for years on the savings from a year or so of work.

Buy cheap land and homestead

Monastery or communal living

Volunteer with WWOOF or workaway long term

Work seasonally take the rest off. Firewatch, ski bum, etc

FIRE as mentioned in another comment. Takes a longer time but if you are super frugal and have a high salary actually very doable in 5-10 years. I suggest looking at mr money moustache.

Also dropping out. Look up how to drop out there's an old famous article about it.

Overall read Early retirement extreme it gives lots of good ideas too.

After looving at various possibilities for a few years I am much more hopeful cause I realized there are tons of realistic options!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

One of the more realistic answers that isn't a get-rich-quick-scheme is to invest your capital and retire early, aka "financial independence". If you're young and don't have a super low salary, you can invest as much as you're able into index funds every year and still retire way before 65 (even with a salary of e.g. 50k). It takes commitment and a little bit of frugality though. On a semi-related note, "LeanFIRE" describes an even earlier retirement where you retire with just enough to live off of, and probably make some concessions in return for retiring sooner.

Not a very "immediate" answer, but if the thought of working yourself to death your entire life is the primary concern, then this is an early way out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Depends on how seriously you take it - you can make it a job or be a bit more casual about it. A friend of mine has started man-whoring at the age of 50 and I doubt he'd claim to be a gigolo, he just does what he'd probably do for free but gets paid for it. Most people might insist on cash if the husband wanted to watch but I can't imagine he'd ever be bothered by an audience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You don't need a job, but you do need revenue. Nobody is self sustaining.

So at what point do you generate revenue without a job?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Well germany has this thing called "bürgergeld" aka citizen money, it covers rent, healthcare + about 500euros for food and stuff.

Once a year u get hussled by the agency that pays it to 'get a job or provide reason why u cant'.

And well one reason can be, that u have mental problems. In fact not wanting to work can be considered a mental problem by some.

Just treat the thing as a very low universal basic income, with the catch that u only get it if u become 'sick' by societys definition.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Passive Income