Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Honestly yeah. There's been some controversies in the past, but for someone who's looking for a zero-effort way to browse privately and support the privacy scene (DDG donates a lot of money) it's a great choice. Wouldn't recommend their browser/extensions though
Definitely would agree with this. The best of a bad bunch. I use it for nearly all my search.
Did see some sketchy stuff with the android app/browser so probably would avoid... and besides, I'm in a decades long relationship with firefox <3.
Do you use Firefox on mobile as well? I use the DDG browser and don't whether I should switch. Haven't heard what exactly is wrong with it, yet.
I use Firefox almost exclusively on android and have nothing but glowing praise for it, it's a solid experience
I’m OOTL on DDG donations? What kinds of projects/people do they donate to, and how does that benefit pirates?
Personally, I found people to be overreacting and DuckDuckGo‘s actions reasonable and transparent. Here’s the story:
https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts/
I’ve used Startpage until they got bought by an ad company. Haven’t looked into it since then:
Their privacy policy and data flow have been the same since the buyout, they were transparent about any implications and the mitigations put in place to protect users, so I'm alright with it. The biggest problem I have with them is sometimes getting rate-limited because of a VPN or Tor, but that's it. Alternatives like DDG and Brave Search are usually bad for results in my native language, so I've been using Startpage for a couple years now and it's nice
For those who still don’t know and find DDG’s name too long to type out than google, you can just input duck.com and it will redirect you to DDG!
Been using DDG for many years and never new this!
It's my main search in my browser, so I don't even type it. Would strongly recommend.
You can also use ddg.gg which is even shorter!
And you don't even need to go the ~~website~~ homepage, just type something like ddg.gg/search promt and it'll give you results straight away.
This is great even if you use a different search engine because you can use !bangs without needing to go through another webpage.
It’s better than google, and so it’s a good start.
I use it everywhere but the search results are... variable. However it's plenty good enough for most situations.
I still switch back to Google if I'm not finding what I want (using DDG's !g keyword, which is pretty helpful - just add that anywhere in a search and it'll send you to Google), but at least I'm only doing that when I'm aware of it.
Use !s for startpage! It's essentially a Google proxy with more privacy.
TIL, thanks!
Didn't DDG get caught allowing some Microsoft tracking and blocking some search results a couple of years back? Personally I use Firefox and starpage as a search engine.
Personally, I found people to be overreacting and DuckDuckGo‘s actions reasonable and transparent. Here’s the story:
https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/duckduckgo-microsoft-tracking-scripts/
I’ve used Startpage until they got bought by an ad company. Haven’t looked into it since then:
That adds interesting context. Thanks for links.
Didn't know this, thanks for the links.
I think they had a contractual situation that they were navigating. They were transparent about it and resolved that situation quite quickly.
Edit: Due to using Bing as a backend. It was potentially an uncomfortable bind they found themselves in.
Ah, gotcha.
Yup - tracking and filtering search results; since then I stay away from DDG.
It's better than google but It's not good. Only options is self hosted searxng
Check out Mull browser. There's mobile version as well for desktops. Its lightweight Firefox without any of the telemetry.
NO.
for the love of god, use anything but DDG. Qwant is EU-based and has decent results, SearX is another one which lets you choose between instances (or host your own).
please stop taking US “privacy” services seriously. i was hoping people would know better on here, compared to reddit
Yes, it's good, however you need to be more specific with your query for DDG to return good result.
If you're interested in other privacy respecting search engines, there's Searxng and Kagi (paid).
No.
I run a private instance of searxng on a cloud provider. If you have the know how to run Docker or are looking for a reason to learn it’s a pretty painless setup.
Searxng is a meta search engine that aggregates results from a lot of different search engines. You have the ability to configure which search engines it will use. For example you can have it aggregate results from Google, bing, yahoo, brave, DDG, startpage, and quant. You have a layer of abstraction between you and those services providing you extra privacy.
You can run an instance on your laptop/desktop and access it locally which gives ok privacy and protects from JS and other browser level tracking. Problem is your IP can still be correlated to others in the same network who use google or w/e. Also makes accessing from your phone and other devices a bit more difficult especially outside of your LAN as you’ll need to poke a hole through your firewall and use Dynamic DNS for reliable access while mobile.
Another option with better privacy is to run the instance in a public cloud provider like AWS, digital ocean, Linode, etc. This way Google, bing, yahoo, and other search engines just see the IP of your cloud instance making requests. It also makes mobile access easier since your instance will have a static IP that you can assign a DNS name to.
In both cases you can use Caddy as a reverse proxy to serve as the public endpoint. Caddy allows you to easily set up TLS/HTTPS without paying for a certificate.
I use an app called TrackerControl on my Android phone, and it caught several trackers on DDG, so I stopped using it. Do I know for certain that the app is absolutely accurate? Nope, but it's a good FOSS that I have been using for a long time and developed a trust relationship with, so I'll avoid what it warns me about. App is available on F-droid if anyone wants to try it.
DDG was known as the best option for search engines but then they started talking of censoring stuff and also it has Microsoft trackers and other problems. Yes, it is still better than Google, Bing and Yandex when talking of privacy but with search engines like Qwant and specially SearX (SearXNG) there's no reason to use DDG over these.
I've been using DDG for the last year and pretty happy with it
Hell yeah. I consider myself privacy paranoid and have been using DuckDuckGo for 5 years without any problems so far. It is pretty strict about its privacy policy.
It may be good for privacy, however, in the past month or so, I have noticed it is incredibly slow to display the search results.
Mine has been going solid still
I recently started using Kagi. The search result are super good, and no ads. You do have to pay tho. Another good one I like is presearch. Both of these have their own crawler, unlike most other search engines which rely on bing or Google.