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What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i've been hopeful. What do you think?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

After seeing several places get mainstream, the last of which being Reddit: I wouldn't want it to. That's when everything starts to suck. Stay niche. Stay cool.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lemmy has a long way to go in terms of user experience before it can effectively compete with Reddit. The majority of new accounts in the last weeks have been spite users. That is, they're here not because they love Lemmy - but because they hate Reddit.

That's not a bad thing, per say. It doesn't matter how people get here. It's more important that they have a good reason to stay.

And the average user doesn't care if something is federated or centralized. They just want a product that works and is simple to grasp. In my opinion, app developers are going to be the gamechanger Lemmy needs Stuff like Memmy (on the iOS app store today!), Mlem, Liftoff, Thunder are pretty much better than the official Reddit app. And that's how most people consume content these days. When there's no enshitification ads or microtransactions - there's clearly going to be a winning experience.

It'll take time, but as more Federation communities build - the less Reddit is necessary. As well, it usually takes a long time before people start catching on that the tools they once loved have turned to into bots and spam.

Mastodon is in it's 7th year, and has like 8 million active users. Twitter had 200 million users by it's 7th year. On one hand, Mastodon is the biggest Federation app. On the other, Twitter was 25x as large. Of course, Twitter is no longer the relevant "town hall" it once was - and is hemorrhaging users and respect. So who knows. It only takes a few celebrity endorsements to get countless folks switching. Who knows

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that Lemmy has the opportunity to replace Reddit, time will tell how far this can really go. Just weeks ago, posts on here were only getting hundreds of upvotes. However, now I'm seeing multiple posts hit thousands a day on lemmy.world. There are many improvements to make until then, some UI, and UX improvements. I know that many people still have trouble understanding the concepts of federation so until those can be resolved I still think that it's not going to reach that level of accessibility. I think we all know how Reddit failed here and lost many users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know if I want it to get as big as reddit is today. I went to Reddit from Digg and I think the sweet spot of people was around 2014-15 right before all the bots and corporate shills showed up. When they started advertising is when it really started going to shit.

If Lemmy ever gets too big I'll prolly leave for something smaller again.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It doesn't need to become mainstream. I'll be happy to be a part of a smaller but vibrant engaged community. I hope there will be a phone app some day through

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I do. What I am looking for is federated/web3 replacements for Instagram, and some kind of well encrypted, decentralized messenger app

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Signal is well encrypted and very much respects privacy of data, but I don't think it's federated. It can interface with normal texts though iirc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope not.

Places like Reddit or Twitter become progressively worse as they get more popular.

Besides, Mastodon is not a replacement of Twitter. It has the same UI and look&feel but it's very different. Twitter is basically a place where internet celebrities post and other people comment and share. Mastodon is more like regular chaps hanging out and exchanging opinions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That could be different. Lemmy is not corporate owned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It has potential, bu I hope it will not become like those mainstream soc-med..
Fediverse is like a village where each denizen trying to self-sufficent and helping each others while mainstream soc-med is like train station or mall where users just come and go while giving money to its owner for their services..
We may need one or two mainstream soc-med to be alive to keep up with news or to socialize with normies, but we also need a place to retreat like current fediverse.
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it remains to be seen. The rapid growth of .world has been the first real production test of how the platform handles more users and content. Amazing work by the team, but there are a lot of rough edges and it is a new platform with a lot of unknowns.

The things that spring to mind for me are:

  • Sign up needs to be streamlined and made more simple, and find a way to not overload individual servers without just randomly assigning people to instances.

  • Live defects, bugs and things feeling rough around the edges.

  • Back-end build and scaling.

  • Duplicate communities across instances.

  • Account migration between instances.

  • Data retention past x period - how will various instances handle this with a large number of users.

  • GDPR and data request compliance from individuals, governments, etc.

  • Funding the costs and resources associated with rapid, large growth. How do people know what their money is going to fund? I think there needs to be real transparency, public roadmaps and backlogs and understand how / if admins are accountable.

  • How the platform and users will respond to large corporations or even individual admins on instances adding adverts, using / selling user data in ways the userbase do not expect.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only if a site like join-Lemmy.org can be promoted on every instance and actually direct you to a server that isn’t overloaded and is fully federated.

Right now, it directs you to sadly overloaded servers that are terrible choices.

If that doesn’t happen, then some big instance needs to scale up with its popularity and be well funded by someone for some reason.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

oh fuck I hope not.

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