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[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

The headphones: Probably zero.

The phone: Definitely possible, if you take care of it and are fine with not having the latest and greatest.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

if you take care of it and are fine with not having the latest and greatest.

Also as long as they can get a battery replacement, it should go the distance. I would source them now, rather than in a few years when they may be hard to find.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S5. (with 3 more replacement batteries in the desk draw)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Eh, charging twice a day isn't such a hassle. As long as the phone isn't losing significant charge when its in sleep mode, it's still a good daily driver.

Sent from my Samsung S3 mini (w LineageOS)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Although not having security updates on your phone is a good enough reason for me to upgrade a phone. I recently used a ROG Phone II for four years before switching to a Fold5 to get a better software update policy. I simply didn't have the time anymore to fiddle with all my apps and fighting SafetyNet to use my banking apps because I used a custom ROM to keep my device updated.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

It's kind of fucked that we just accept that as an argument though isn't it? Your desktop PC goes "out of support" when something physically requires hardware features or performance that isn't present on the chip. Up until windows 11, you could essentially put a fully up to date and secure windows 10 on a 15 year old computer if it was beefy enough.

Now we put up with "my manufacturer doesn't want to give me drivers for the device I bought but clearly don't actually own, so it's reasonable to pony up another $800 in 3 years to buy something new.

Android in the like 1.0 days installed and managed itself like a desktop is that could be installed on anything you could feed it drivers to. Why we as a society put up with anything less is beyond me.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Mobile phone might, but battery will go bad in 3-4 years and if it's OLED screen it will show ghosting for sure after same period of time. Earbuds no chance. They will die much sooner, at least battery will.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (9 children)

My Nexus 4 from 2012 still works. It's also running Android 13.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Ear buds no way.

Phone, would work fine though might have a bad battery at the end. But should still work ok.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Piss poor. 7 years of OS support, but I can almost guarantee you the hardware will die within 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

California just passed a law that should affect the Pixel, and would require Google to provide replacement parts for the phone for 7 years also

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My pixel 5 is still doing well and that's 3 years old, only gave it up as it's out of support

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This smells like advertisement

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

essentially zero. google churn and burn hardware by making it very badly.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I still using pixel 3 from 2018 running the lastest update of android with custom ROM

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With how awful my P6 is ageing I wouldn't count on it...

Me not trusting pixel phones toast more than 2-4 years is the reason I still won't buy another one. If I see people actually still use the p8 by 2030 I might buy one again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (7 children)

What's wrong with your P6? My P6 Pro is almost 2 years old and it's still working great.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've had mine for 4 years at a time. And I change for convenience, not because they break down.

Edit: Went through the order history. I wasn't entirely correct. More like 3 years at a time. But, I didn't have to upgrade either.

  • 2012 Nexus 4
  • 2015 Nexus 6P
  • 2018 Pixel XL
  • 2021 Pixel 4a
  • 2023 Pixel 7
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

My only fears is that made by Google. They can decide not to support it 3 years later. But you’ll have roms for maybe even more then 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For me is all about security updates, I'll be using GrapheneOS once it's available.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I don’t think you’ll have a problem. Google’s phones are usually among the most supported by custom ROM developers. Even if GrapheneOS ceases to exist, you’ll likely find a replacement that supports the Pixel 8.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

pixel phones do already have long support times tho

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (6 children)

People are right to worry about the phone's battery. If you want to keep it that long, get a 500mA charger and slow charge it every night and avoid deep discharge.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is nothing wrong with just replacing the battery after a few years.

Worrying that much about battery health is a pain.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Seriously, life is too short for battery anxiety.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I thought this was fixed/debunked years ago?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

it is. modern Smartphones have Software which prevent damage to the battery

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get a thick 2 piece rubber/plastic case. Make sure the edge of the case sticks out significantly from the screen, so when you drop it, it will hit the case before the phone. (Provided you don't drop it on gravel or something pointy)

My pixel 3a has survived years of this. And I haven't needed to replace it yet. Sure the plastic is scuffed to hell and back, and it ads significant thickness. but it's yet to fail in protecting my phone. And I've never bought a screen protector for it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

It will definitely outrun stadia

Wait where's stadia

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Slim, after some years they will quietly drop the support, or only provide security updates.

At best they will exclude a Buch of Features and roll out a dumb version of the os upgrade.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My first-gen Pixel still works just fine. The battery is shit and doesn't stay on for more than an hour or so, but replacing the battery is a trivial matter. But while the battery has juice, it runs just as smoothly as it always has. Same experience with my Pixel 3, and likely to be the same experience with my Pixel 6. The Pixel line seem to withstand aging quite well, in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I'm typing this on a Pixel 2 and I have no issues with it. Even the battery will last me the day, but I keep location off. That helps.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Depends how much you care about shit working.

My tablet works and works well, but practically every site and game related app will crash. I can use discord, reddit/lemmy but thats about all my tablet can handle. It seems to handle YouTube fine, but i don't use it on mobile because of the 50million ads.

My tablet isn't 10 years old, yet. Again it still works its just...most things don't work with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You could use newpipe instead of YouTube. I find it is much lighter weight

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The way the volume rocker & power button popped off so easily in jerryrigs durability test, I would have doubts about its longevity...🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

In 2-3 years the phone scene might radically change with the EU law. You might not even want to use this till 2030.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

🙄 I'm sure having a removable battery is going to make me want to spend $700 on a wasteful new phone and definitely not spend $90 to have the current one replaced.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As a point of comparison, we just got rid of an iPhone X that was in use in the family for 6 years. It had battery replaced once, but admittedly due, if we kept it. We got rid of because Apple dropped support, plus there was a lot of physical damage from a teen carrying it, and repeatedly removing the case.

However discounting the physical damage, it worked reasonably well. If there were fewer drops, it would still have been a useful phone

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

By then Android will have gone through 10 yearly API level updates.

Assuming no OS competitor appears (which I really hope it does) it'll probably last 5 years if you keep it in a good condition.

But if you actually use it daily like a normal phone, then probably much less.

Google will drop support quickly for the next lineup, and they probably won't even bother with any bugfixes after a year and half.

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