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[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was a great episode.

Also, Number One saying "They put that on the poster?" made my heart melt.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And the gag with Ransom calling Una the sexiest, given the actors' relationship.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ransom's voice actor Jerry O'Connell is complimenting his wife, Rebecca Romjin, who plays Una.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

LD is full meta jokes about things in universe. Little jokes like this 'behind the scenes' is a great joke too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I believe the actors are married in real life

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

I adore this episode, especially later on when the SNW crew go fan crazy over the NX-01 crew with those Boimler and Mariner grinning in the background. That and Boim's Section 31 fast walk

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've watched this episode twice and I'm about to watch it a third time since you reminded me about it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Everyone keeps saying “this episode” but I don’t know which series or which episode y’all are referring to lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

"Those Old Scientists" - Strange New Worlds S2E07. It's a crossover with Lower Decks and it's awesome.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The next few years under captain Pike will have to be very harsh on Spock to get him to Nimoy's look

[–] ricecooker 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

this is a great episode! when she comes through the portal. I always think "oh gawd, here we go". the characters are played flawlessly and really bring the shows together in a way that few are able to achieve.

[–] ruckblack 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is this what this show is like?

[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lower Decks is an animated comedy. It's Star Trek in a new genre. They speak very fast, very loudly, and try to make every line at least a little funny, often sliding in obscure references to Trek lore. Think Futurama or Rick and Morty.

Strange New Worlds is a modern take on classic Star Trek, which is much more buttoned-up. It's true to the more serious tone of previous live-action Trek series.

This is from the crossover episode, where two Lower Decks characters appeared in Strange New Worlds. The contrast between them and the Enterprise crew was a riot, and IMHO they didn't overdo it; they got it just right. It's everything I could have hoped for as a fan of both of these two very different series.

I recommend both shows.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lower Decks is certainly fast, loud and in-your-face funny. But what I was completely not expecting is for it to be so respectful and adoring of what came before in the franchise. I thought originally, ah yeah one of those “fast edgy animated comedies”, it surely would be derisive and treat Trek like a joke itself, but actually, no it does not. It’s a comedy set in the Trek universe, it’s not a comedy where Trek is the punchline.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Mike McMahan is a lifelong Trekkie and it shows! Whilst I do wish the references to other shows were toned down a smidge in favour of building new lore I always enjoy them hah. "Not the 'Gazer!"

[–] ricecooker 13 points 10 months ago

I feel the same way. The writers do such a good job integrating ST lore that it just really displays their knowledge and respect for the universe.

Off the top of my head:

  • random references to made up Star Trek words and concepts, like Ponfarr and Chadeetch (I'm not looking these words up)
  • getting to revisit 1 off species. Everyone loves the metaphor aliens (TEMBA ARMS WIDE OPEN) so it's fun to bring them back and poke fun. It's basically the Airplane scene ("Excuse me miss, I speak jive.")
  • Characters are very aware of various ways to die as red shirt

It's a fun show

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Weeell, SNW is only on season 2 and we've already had an animated crossover, a musical episode, two characters doing Star Trek mythbusters, a double date sitcom setup with Spock and a renfair episode.

SNW isn't a self-parody, but it's certainly aiming for TOS' blend of camp and speculative sci-fi more than the "serious tone" of 90s Trek, if that's how we want to describe it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where did people get the idea that 90s Trek was serious?

Do people not remember Lwaxana Troi? Q being Marvel's Loki?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this is because TNG had a very serious tone, and very ridiculous plots. Surface level they spent a lot of time adjusting shirts and trying to act prim and respectful with horns and orchestra in the background, then someone turns into a spider.

I think this causes people to see different things in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ironically, this is pretty much how McMahan got Lower Decks. He used to write the TNG Season 8 Twitter, where he'd post fake synopses for his imagined episodes. It was almost always a fairly serious A-plot and a hilariously bananas B-plot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Agreed. I'm using serious here to meet the previous poster halfway and... well, because yeah, if you compare it to TOS I guess it's more serious than that.

In any case, TOS and TNG (and especially DS9 and Voyager) are on different tones and SNW is, appropriately, aiming for modern TOS, not modern TNG.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol no that was a unique (but still great) episode

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I could watch Boimler hop in the saddle and exclaim "Riker" over, and over...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Is that Bill?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know boimler's hair is purple in lower decks, but I didn't expect it to be purple in live action for some reason and I couldn't stop thinking about how weird it was whenever he was on screen. Like, the Simpsons have yellow skin while animated but if they were real life people it wouldn't be neon yellow. Am I crazy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Turns out that's not just an animation convention, Boimler's hair really is purple. He dyes it.

[–] Lucidlethargy 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I loved this crossover, but Spock's casting was very rough. He's a talented actor, but he's not Spock...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TOS is unwatchable to me so Ethan Peck has become the Spock for me lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TOS is really rough, but what about the movies? Some of those were really great. That's the main reason Leonard Nimoy is Spock to me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah fair. I've never seen any of the Star Trek movies 😅

I started with Discovery, I liked it at the time and jumped back to TNG and went from there. I ended up skipping like half of TNG and all of Voyager though 💀

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Start with "wrath of kahn". Thank me later.

Or don't I'm not your dad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

That sounds like something my dad would say...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

To me I feel like Ethan peck is actually very good at acting as Spock, but the writing is extremely unspock like and so it doesn’t feel right. Kirk’s writing also seems more like the mythos of Kirk remembered as by the 24th century than the actual buttoned up officer of the 23rd.