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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wasnt there an issue where certain devs' accounts were compromised and malware was being distributed?

EDIT: that wasnt why. Kde connect was removed until its sms functionality was removed due to new security policies: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/mobile/kde-connect-kicked-from-google-play-returns-less-the-app-it-was/

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So basically, if there's any app where the developer releases a Play Store version, but also has a separate non-Play Store version with added functionality that goes against the Play Store's ToS, Play Protect is going to remove it from your device?

Not flag it, or remove permissions, or freeze it, just straight remove it.

So for example, the Private Internet Access VPN app has a play store version without the ad and tracker blocking functionality, because that goes against the Play Store TOS. But you can get the full version with the ad blockers as an APK from the official website.

Is Play Protect gonna nix that, too?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure Google will kill off Play Protect soon anyway.

[–] 10EXP 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your name gives me PTSD of the times I’ve lost Hades speedruns to bad sack RNG.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 10EXP 8 points 1 year ago

Well lets hope I don’t forget again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't believe that play protect actually scans or does anything to an apk that isn't installed through Google play, but you do have the option to turn it off through the Google play store settings.

*Seems that it potentially may remove apks from other store installs. If that's the case, shut the stupid thing off if it causes you problems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

without the ad and tracker blocking functionality, because that goes against the Play Store TOS

Yet there are straight up ad blockers on the Play store.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Does this affect fdroid?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m seeing these quite often with people taking the name of the app as “proof” it’s fine. Even if you got it from a reputable source, you should verify the checksum at the very least. Because if you don’t, thinking this stupid feature is stupid, you may just have malware on your system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except Samsung Wallet was pre-installed on my phone by Samsung themselves. I've never installed Samsung Wallet manually, Samsung did it for me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Again, not taking a side because it's Google, etc. etc., but just saying from a technical POV. I'd look into it and if I found a false positive, I'd probably just disable it. But the point I'm making is to have that look. Because if you jump to conclusions, then why do you even have it enabled?? Hoping it's going to return a prompt one day:

Harmful app uninstalled

SuperVirus2000 was uninstalled for your security

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

When I worked for a phone manufacturer i saw a carrier branded variant get literal adware preinstalled that would display full screen popup ads. There's enough players working with razer thin margins that the mobile space is full of crap that shouldn't be

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google thinks anything that isn't Google is harmful(to their bottom line).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

to their bottom line

They feel that way about a lot of their own services too

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

It's almost as if they're a business created to make money

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

That's fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

As an F-Droid enthusiast, I think Google Play is malware.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

If everything around you is harmful maybe you are the harmful one google

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did the same to me but with Samsung Wallet lmao

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I still have it installed on my S23 Ultra....

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

That's why everyone (who isn't completely tech-illiterate) should disable this crap or degoogle even further.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin is harmful to our profitability and was uninstalled.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I would stop using the internet

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That's why I decided to turn Play Protect off. Kinda useless for me and only does bullshit like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, I can't view a single Google service without ads for Temu being pushed hard all over my shit despite it literally being spyware

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just install it via Fdroid. I would not even be surprised if they'd still remove it.
I use CalyxOS btw, google can't touch me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I want to install SharkBait on my phone. It is Gentoo-based android.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Installed my version with f-droid.

No problems for me.

Edit I've made it a rule-always check for open source or non-Google source, installation away from play store is vastly preferred.

[–] Dreadfighter23 4 points 1 year ago

That's due to Google adding play protect to the play store, which scans for "malicious" apps on your device that were installed outside of the play store. If you're someone that likes to sideload and knows what they are doing then I would suggest turning it off to avoid Google removing your stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Did you sideloaded the apk from dubious source? I have KDE connect too and it's bit flagged. Always install from f-droid or play store only.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I wanna preface this by saying that I run GrapheneOS (GOS), so idk if that has anything to do with the fact that nothing has flagged my version of KDE Connect. If it's a Google Play Services (GPS) thing, then:

  1. I guess it depends on whether you run GPS on your GOS phone, or
  2. Maybe it doesn't even depend on #1, since GPS runs as unprivileged. I put KDE it on my GPS profile, and didn't get any notification about this.

Guessing this is just a Play Protect thing.

Nevertheless, if you're installing FOSS apps, try installing them via Obtanium instead of the Google Play Store.

You can simply copy and paste the source code URL into Obtanium, and it'll grab the APK, as well as notify you when there's updates.

It supports F-Droid, GitHub, GitLab, and other sources.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same here but for LuckyPatcher. Damn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is similar to how American cops protect black people by shooting them. Stop resisting! /s