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It's just infuriating, there is no good reason for not supporting firefox

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It it's any consolation, it barely works under ideal conditions anyway.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought it might be sensible on Linux to use MS Edge for Teams (the PWA version).
Nope, it's just as shit in Microsoft's own browser. There is apparently no saving it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I tried the same thing and was flabbergasted at how badly optimized it is. It take ages to load in all three of the browsers I tried and it's not even worth it since their feature set is 10 years behind the market!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My favourite example of this is how it handles audio devices. Every other app just uses the default Windows audio devices, maybe with an option to change it to something else if you want, but not Teams. It has to handle the choosing of the audio device itself. I once saw this lead to the fantastic situation where the sound in Windows was working fine via someone’s USB headset, but Teams decided it wanted to use the headphone jack built into their laptop dock as it’s audio device instead (no headphones were even plugged in). We manually changed it but it kept defaulting back to the headphone jack every time the dock was disconnected and reconnected! I can’t remember what fixed it in the end, probably just a reinstall or something but it was still a stupid and easily avoidable issue.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Firefox even is hardcoded to present itself as "Chrome on Windows" when visiting Teams.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chrome is becoming the modern Internet Explorer. "Oh, yeah, the site only really works in IE for some reason..."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Chrome is the new IE in terms of support. "Best viewed in Chrome"

Safari is the new IE in terms of weird bugs that no other browser encounters. Some of their web APIs like LocalStorage and IndexedDB still have odd quirks (but at least they're not completely broken any more).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ye, i remember they mentioning this, and people i know confirm it works fine. It just doesnt work on my end. I do have firefox set up to be very private though ( no 3th party cookies and more )

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's definitely a part of it. All of the MS web platforms rely heavily on first and third party cookies. You can't even log in properly to Teams if your browser is in incognito/private mode.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am one of the last to defend Microsoft but I just tried it with Firefox 118.0.1 64-Bit on Win11 22H2 22621.2134 with uBlock Origin enabled.

Loaded a good few times but it loaded and can chat.
Seems more like a you problem!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Teams is a fucking joke and I hate it.

Login loops, cookie mess, until recently calling not supported on Firefox (like what?)

I mean it’s 2023 and you come up with this abomination, Microsoft?

Teams should be illegal at this point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The only reason it exists is to keep companies trapped in the MS ecosystem. They do this with all kinds of things. For instance at my work it's required for all engineers to get Azure certified due to a deal we have with MS. They don't care about their product. They don't care about their users. Hell they don't even care about their employees. It's just B2b == money, all day every day

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't forget it's just reskinned Skype for Business. It was shit back in the day, but at least everything else was shitty aswell.

In our company we self host Rocket.Chat, and damn me if it isn't the best thing ever. It just fucking works, flawlessly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Microsoft Teams has a completely different technical base than Skype for Business. Other platform, other language, other tech stack, other APIs, other protocols, other features. The one that just was a reskinned something was Skype for Business, formerly known as Lync, formerly known as Office Communicator, formerly known as Windows Messenger, formerly known as Exchange Conferencing, ...

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teams barely even works in Teams

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird, for me it does work.

[–] reev 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, maybe some extension conflict?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't know, I only got youtube dislike and ublock addon, it also doesn't work for my friends tho

[–] newIdentity 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably ublock origin

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I have uBlock Origin and it doesn't do the thing displayed in the picture.

[–] newIdentity 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe they're using custom lists

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[–] reev 6 points 1 year ago

Are they all on Linux too?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teams doesn't work on anything

[–] newIdentity 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Works on my work laptop with windows 11

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ITT: pretty much everyone who actually tried it reports that OP is wrong

Also, calling them "shitsoft" just makes you seem whiny. If you want to make a serious point about something, don't do that.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Work fine for me in Firefox on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Works fine for me on Firefox on Windows10 on an old thinkpad that can barely run Google Meet now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Switch agent to Google Chrome / Chromium and things will work magically.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Let’s not forget that Teams also uses SharePoint as a backend to some of its functions. If ever there was a pile of shit to build on…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is great. Highly recommended.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yep. Use it at work every day (on Ubuntu). Gives you more features than the "oicial preview client" used to do (like custom video backgrounds and screen sharing on Wayland) but you can run it as a seperate app instead of just in your browser.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesnt work on my systems ( firefox + windows, not linux ) either. With some user agent magic (tricking its running on safari/ios) it works... Except when you enable your camera in teams >>

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shitsoft teams doesn't work ~~on firefox~~

FTFY

I unfortunately have to work regularly with Ms teams and it's a gargantuan shit show that doesn't work, period. Why anyone would want to even use this is beyond me. About 6 months ago I posted a list of over 20 bugs on Reddit in the /teams sub reddit and I just got flooded with replies like "liar" and "you suck"

Fuck everything about sucksoft

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Fuck this piece of shit software. I'm so done with this. Today, there was an issue with the audio freezing while playing videos embedded in a presentation. Cant even Do the one thing it is supposed to do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't know what settings/configs/add-ons you got, but at the college I go to, they don't allow modifications on school computers. Teams, which I am forced to use in 3 of my classes and it just works.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

is it just not working on firefox or artificially not supporting it? if the second option is true, then i think there's a way to spoof websites into thinking you're running chrome.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you have enhanced tracking protection on? Knowing Microsoft you might need to disable it for teams to work right

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They told me in the UI to turn it off.
It could be the issue or OP didnt read the error message.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've found it works with Firefox but breaks a lot with Ublock (with a lot of filters enabled) or URL cleaning apps, for what it's worth.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The desktop app won't work on my machine because it ALWAYS tries to connect to my ActiveDirectory account, but my company doesn't use Teams so that always fails. It says it can be configured to use a personal account but it lies, and always goes for the AD first. I'm forced to use the web client for any meeting that requires Teams.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I spent over an hour yesterday trying to fix onedrive sync issues caused by teams yesterday. I hate that software with a vengeance!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I had some issues with calling within teams on Firefox. I was able to resolve it by installing the Firefox plugin that resolves it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I hate teams but sadly I'm forced to use it in school. Our city spent ridiculous amount of money developing an ms SharePoint/office site for all schools so now I'm stuck with shotsoft teams :(

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am using only flatpak for this garbage.

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