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see linked post. I believe this would count as one of the examples given in the federation policy https://lemm.ee/post/401063 :

An instance which is knowingly spreading CSAM into the federated network

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[–] imaqtpie 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah we just defederated recently. Abhorrent server. We are also considering adopting the fediseer censure list because there are a lot of other problematic instances.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not 100% sure on how Lemmy works with federation, but isnt there a risk of illegal content being mirrored to your instance if someone here hits a post from the bad server too ?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Medias are only hosted by the instance from which the poster is, specifically for this reason. So if someone spreads CSAM on another instance into yours, the only mirrored content is textual but not the offending material

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ahh ok, thanks for the clarification. As i say wasnt sure, but thought worth mentioning in case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Remote instances do mirror thumbnails.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Oh wow. Those folks are off the rails... read some discussions over there to see what it's all about... oooooh boy!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s probably a good idea to decouple from that car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

says rimjob steve

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Their site doesn’t even load. (At least not now)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Probably took it down temporarily. Those types of instances don't like being exposed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This creates a question. Not this specific content, but on the political side of the content. It may be illegal in US, but legal in Russia and vice versa.

How does fediverse address this?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it varies by jurisdiction, but a server hosted in the US would be obligated to avoid serving illegal content whether it was sent from another server, uploaded by the server owner, or posted by a user of the site, which I believe creates an obligation to defed from CP instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

An instance that hosts

CW sv mentionCP(child pornography).

[–] clay_pidgin 1 points 1 year ago

CP stands for Child Pornography. I've seen that CSAM (child sexual abuse material) is becoming a more common acronym.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not relying on legalistic justifications, for one. Legality is a constraint of whoever the host would be arrested by. It's not a substitute for having your own standards. You shouldn't need a legal justification to ban pedos or nazis, no matter where you live. We can't stop them from making their own online spaces, but we are not obligated to share our spaces with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this server should follow Estonia law

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

i think this server should follow Mazovian law

mazovian-thought

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Do you have an example of CSAM being posted there?

Just mentioning paraphilias in the description is a bit light, especially with the rest of it being pretty tame and inclusive...

They could probably be talking about legal paraphilias like cars and tentacle monsters

Edit: ah nevermind they host a lot of kid stuff

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their biggest communities are those devoted to pedo shit. We can safely write this instance off.

[–] clay_pidgin 1 points 1 year ago

Those are run by the insurance admins, too.

[–] imaqtpie 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. I don't even want to post it