They’re supporting Liz Truss, so they’re obviously insane. But are they insane enough to collapse the government and bring about a general election where many are at risk of losing their seats? I don’t understand their game plan, but that might just be because I have a basic grasp of cause and effect.
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2023
34 points (94.7% liked)
UK Politics
2985 readers
47 users here now
General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both [email protected] and [email protected] .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.
Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.
Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.
If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)
Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.
Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.
[email protected] appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I'd like to think they're not completely stupid. They must know they'll be getting a drubbing at the next election. So it baffles me why they want to make that an even bigger dicking?
I can only imagine that know they'll be fucked in opposition so why not start succession planning now. They're not even going to try at the next election. But even that doesn't make sense because you need to be elected to be in opposition!
Fuck I have no idea 🤣.
I'd like to think they're not completely stupid.
Why?
Because I don't like to paint people with broad unspecific brush strokes, generally. And like to think, again generally, people want to do the right things most of the time. Otherwise you'd end up bitter and afraid to interact with people based on preconceptions. But each to their own, eh?
Yes, not stupid, just do the right thing you say...
🤔
I'm not trying to claim they don't do stupid things. I'm saying that as a group I don't believe in tarring everyone with the sins of the past.
Again, you can disagree and that is cool 😎.
Honestly? I think they know they have fucked up too much and really don't want to be left holding the economic turd after next year.
So this is a two pronged plan.
-
Burn the house down so that when Labour come in, it will be painful and they can point to labour raising taxes to get basic shit done. Kier is doing well not to promise anything. We still have a year of the government dicking around, do not make promises that the Tories can sabotage before getting into power.
-
They really don't want to be in power after the next election, so they are doing everything they can to make sure they are voted out. What else would be the purpose of extending sales of ICE vehicles? Some of these things don't make sense as they are unpopular with Tories, until you understand that they don't want the votes at all.
Sixty? Holy shit.
Truss? What the fuck.
Splitting the vote? Cool!
It's been a rollercoaster
What in the ever living fuck is going on in this fucking country?
Tory things...
Right?!
Firstly, after the entire economic world tells you your ideas are shit, how fucking deluded do you need to be market yourself as an expert?!
Secondly, after the entire economic world told her her ideas were shit, how fucking deluded do you need to be to fucking believe her?!
OK, time to make a shopping list:
- Popcorn
- More popcorn
- A head of lettuce
- A blonde wig
- A pair of googly eyes.
Jesus, Tories, why not just set fire to your mansions while you’re at it?
Boggling.
We might still have to do that for them.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Sixty Conservative MPs have joined Liz Truss’s Growth Group, imperilling the government’s majority in parliament, as Rishi Sunak was warned by former cabinet ministers “we cannot accept the status quo”.
Despite resigning from office nearly a year ago after her disastrous mini-budget, Truss showed no signs of contrition, saying Sunak should be willing to take tough decisions to help grow the economy even if they were unpopular.
Hunt acknowledged in his conference speech that “the level of tax is too high”, though added he was focused on tackling the “long-term” challenge of inflation first.
“I don’t think there is space for tax cuts, unless we can think of some pretty radical ways,” Johnson told the Guardian at another conference fringe event in Manchester.
“It’s not just the immediate pressures that we’re seeing in public finances, but we know that we’re going to be needing to spend more on health and pensions, social care and everything going forward as a result of demographic change.
Jake Berry, the Conservative party chairman during Liz Truss’s premiership and one of those who signed the pledge to vote against further tax rises, said he was unafraid of standing up to Rishi Sunak’s administration.
The original article contains 502 words, the summary contains 198 words. Saved 61%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Why can't they accept Status Quo? They're a rock icon!
they really want those tax cuts huh?