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Tesla misses estimates for quarterly deliveries; shares fall (www.reuters.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Tesla missed market estimates for third-quarter deliveries on Monday as planned upgrades at its factories forced production halts, sending its shares down 2.4% in early trading.

The electric-vehicle maker handed over 435,059 vehicles in the three months to Sept. 30, down nearly 7% from the preceding quarter, but said its target to deliver 1.8 million vehicles this year remained unchanged.

An LSEG poll of eight analysts estimated deliveries of 459,949 vehicles, with the lowest at 442,000 and the highest at 511,405.

The electric vehicle market has seen a slowdown in the United States, although there are signs of growth, Canalys Research said in its report.

"While Tesla remains a dominant force in the US EV market for 2023, there is an increasing demand for a wider range of EV options to satisfy the growing consumer interest in electric vehicles," said Ashwin Amberkar, analyst at the market research firm.

The world's most valuable automaker produced 430,488 vehicles in the third quarter, compared with 479,700 in the second quarter and 365,923 a year earlier.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

According to the article, they produced 17.6% more cars than the same quarter last year. This is FAR from bad news for Tesla. (Edit: Fixed the math)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If people are watching what is going on within Tesla right now, they are releasing a majorly redesigned Model 3, both interior and exterior, which is now getting the attention of potential buyers. Slows down manufacturing with the retooling.

Bad call as far as numbers/estimates goes, but hopefully this will improve the "cheap car feel" meme that the Model 3 currently has.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Only if they make it right, which would be a first

[+] [email protected] -21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are joking, surely? Their QA is terrible. Numerous documented cases of steering wheels coming off, loose trimmings inside the car or them just catching fire. Buying a tesla in 2023 is falling for marketing hype, especially considering all the alternatives from other manufacturers.

[+] [email protected] -16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Every Tesla I've had the 'pleasure' of either driving or being a passenger in had massive panel gaps and issues with the interior. Not to mention the last Model S I drove broke down after going through a canyon. I don't dislike Tesla because of Musk, I dislike them because they have very poor QA for their price.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

When did you buy your model Y? Near it's release, or relatively recently?

My two of my co workers had some early model 3s and they were awful fit and finish, not to mention the general "cheap car with leather" feel. Modern ones (a friend has one) should be fine, but it shouldn't take 5 years for QC issues to get under control. Hopefully the new 3 is like the new S and isn't a nightmare on launch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You're justifying your stance based on your sole experience? Are you interested in the truth? Have you looked at all the issues Tesla has had?

[+] [email protected] -15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Don't bother, everyone here just parrots the same circlejerks they saw on reddit and all the other social media. No one cares about actual owners opinions or facts or reality anymore, just the circlejerking.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

completely ignoring that maybe some users are actual owners that now hate their purchases

[+] [email protected] -7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Completely ignoring that any owners that don't "hate their purchase" get downvoted and insulted and any who do get blasted with upvotes instantly purely because it fits the circlejerk.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh no, downvotes! Those are surely much worse than a very expensive car that is super unreliable and has panel gaps from the factory line.

You're totally right, it's gotta be a circlejerk. Even review websites like Consumer Reports are joining in on the circlejerk. It can't be that the product is bad or anything like that, they must just hate Tesla to hate Tesla!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bud come on. You can't type comments like this and pretend half this shit isn't in bad faith.

You people don't all come out of the wood work when other car companies have problems. There were a couple of massive recalls over the last couple days and most people don't even know about them because they aren't about teslas.

If they were about teslas they'd be plastered over the front page of every social media site for weeks, and you know it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Ah, but I see that you're the one arguing in bad faith here, as evidenced by you continuing to put everyone into tribes:

You people

Anyway.. I'll continue to argue with you for now, even though it's clear you're angry that people don't like Tesla, for what ever reason that may be.

There were a couple massive recalls over the last few days and most people don't even know about them

This is incorrect. Those recalls are currently top weekly posts on multiple Lemmy communities. People clearly know about them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because you liking your own car that doesn't have issues doesn't negate all the issues Tesla has. They have shit QA and build quality, literally spend 30 seconds on Google.

The irony is you people think it has to do with Musk, the main reason you bought it, it doesn't. The product is shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Lot of bad faith here. Tons of people like their car. It's absolutely a massive circlejerk. No one is claiming they're perfect. There is a concept you should check out called "nuance" that social media is destroying, maybe consider giving it a shot.

The last paragraph is just pure trolling garbage, not even going to bother.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, I'm operating in bad faith? That's hilariously ironic.

Tons of people hate their Tesla too, at least pretend to be unbiased.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming at this point you're just getting off on trolling, but I urge you to actually look up what a circlejerk is. Some people can not like a car and it still doesn't look or present itself the way this circlejerk always does. The amount of goal post shifting, blatant misinformation, and lying that goes on in these discussions is insane but no one cares because.. It's a circlejerk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's a lot of words to say nothing of substance.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Owner here, what they're saying is true (perhaps not the fire part, that's really overblown). Those parroting Tesla as the height of car engineering are blowing smoke out their ass.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

LOL, or maybe we just read Consumer Reports?

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tesla/model-x/2022/reliability/

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-mercedes-evs-ranked-worst-annual-reliability-survey-by-consumer-reports-2022-11-15/

https://insideevs.com/news/622136/tesla-consumer-reports-reliability-2022/

All this & it supports a #fascist? Yuck. I'll stick with Subaru, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Any Chinese EV kicks the Teslas in build quality. And the Swedish Polestars are luxury EVs on the same price bracket. Tesla is trash.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, Polestars are made in China. Just because their brands aren't massive with marketing in the US doesn't mean they aren't good. BYD is by sheer numbers the largest producer of electric vehicles in the world. And they're regarded as quality and durable vehicles that most reviewers think will take the European market by storm soon since they just installed themselves there. The Seal is considered superior to the Tesla 3 and it's cheaper. Tesla actually pays to them to use their batteries in Asia. And they provide the platform for Toyota. Again, just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it's not true. Read the room, there's a reason you're being downvoted. And it's not Tesla or Elon hate, you just don't know enough about the EV market and said something false.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Polestars far surpass Tesla especially in terms of build quality. That has nothing to do with China, and everything to do with Tesla cutting corners.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

model x and s are but the 3 and y are just cheap boxes with a rectangular screen

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The X and S are also crap quality when compared to luxury cars in their price range. The build quality on a $80k+ Audi, BMW, or Mercedes is much higher than what you’ll get in a Tesla, and they don’t have those goofball gull wing doors that Elon insisted on and that are trash.

I was never a fan of Elon, but what turned me off from Tesla five years ago was build quality issues, not the fact that he’s a horrible person. That, and the more I learned about the company and its engineering and manufacturing, the less I trusted what they were shipping. You can learn a lot just talking to people in bars in Silicon Valley.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This is a joke right? This has to be a joke. Guys, no way this isn't a joke.