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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

FYI: the 250M is the minimum penalty

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Plus there is this:

In a pretrial ruling on Tuesday, a Judge Arthur Engoron ordered the cancelation of the Trump Organization's business certificates in the state after determining that Trump submitted "fraudulent valuations" for assets that were then used by himself, his eldest sons and his business to obtain better loan and insurance terms.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Looking at Luis Rossman's video on the matter, seems this is a common thing with New York commercial real estate. So I wonder if they'll crack down on that practice too?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Let's hope so. If this helps to stop others from committing multi million dollar fraud, we got two birds with this stone

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They should have all those contracts then nullified due to this fraud, and redrawn at the proper terms with actual rates. If he doesn’t qualify, then have him immediately have to pay it back. That’s what would happen to any one of us schleps. Not to mention jail and probably wage garnishments and stuff. But hey. I could always run for President still. I guess?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No way Trump gets on that stand.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (2 children)

James plans to call Trump and his adult sons to the stand during the trial, according to a list of witnesses the AG has filed with the court.

You get called to the stand, you go on the stand.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Almost no one bothers because nearly everyone would plead the fifth. It's expected in court as the defendant.

I guess they're banking on Trump being that self important.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fifth or not, if he gets called to the stand, he goes on it. Then he gets to sit there and make his own decisions, under oath, about how to respond to questions.

In a criminal case, "jurors cannot get information about a defendant's refusal to answer questions or go on the witness stand in their defense." But this is a civil case. "The protections you have in criminal prosecutions when taking the fifth do not apply in a civil case. A jury [or the judge, in this case] is free to make an adverse inference if you plead the fifth in a civil trial."

Call him up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And I believe things that come to light as a result can lead to further civil and criminal charges?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Oh of course - that would be the case whether it was civil or criminal. New information comes to light that reveals additional crimes or liabilities, AG would need to look at whether those are prosecutable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

All they have to do is put him on the stand and say something like “the libs say you’re the worst at dodging taxes, that you pay so much tax you practically give it away to poor people” to which he’d go on a 17 minute tirade about how he doges taxes bigger than anyone in the world and it’s all political and ok to do because he very smart man.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just ask him who has the best golf courses, the most luxurious, the most valuable. Or maybe who's the best at avoiding taxes...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

The 5th works differently in a civil trial in a really important way. In a civil case the jury is allowed to assume he's guilty when he pleads the 5th.

The prosecution could say something like "Wow. You are pleading the 5th to A LOT of these questions. That looks really bad. Undoubtedly you know this. Yet you seem to have determined that providing an answer would be even worse for you."

Or something like that. I'm not a lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I wish all proceedings like this were recorded.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can Donald Duck these charges?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

On this episode of DuckTales...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

No wonder he was always so salty

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Meh, they got Alex Jones on more than this and he’s still on the air agitating for terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Covered in butter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Oh, gosh, that is so sad. I bet his dumbfuck supporters are going to be all the more excited for little daddy donnie since he's such a martyr and everything. Even though he utterly loathes such people, would never deign to spend a minute with them, and of course, will do sweet fuck-all for any of them, except make them feel that they are better than other people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Awe, the precious dick hole.