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President Joe Biden on Tuesday joined a picket line with striking autoworkers in Michigan, supporting their call for a 40% pay raise and saying they deserve a "lot more" than they are getting.

Biden's appearance, the first visit by a U.S. president to striking workers in modern history, comes a day before Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for president, will speak to auto workers in Michigan. The rare back-to-back events highlight the importance of union support in the 2024 presidential election, even though unions represent a tiny fraction of U.S. workers.

Democrat Biden traveled to a Belleville, Michigan, parts distribution center owned by General Motors (GM.N), and joined dozens of picketers outside. "Companies were in trouble, now they're doing incredibly well. And guess what? You should be doing incredibly well, too," Biden said through a bullhorn. "Stick with it."

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[–] [email protected] 196 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (16 children)

“Both sides are the same!”

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Our state GOP was totally hijacked by MAGA radicals and now answers to Karamo, who's an utter nut job and die-hard Trump loyalist.

But they've gone so far a lot of moderate Republicans feel alienated and with our new balanced voting districts Democrats will probably secure victory for the foreseeable future. It still will be a tight race, but I would not be surprised if Biden's margin in 2024 is bigger in Michigan than it was in 2020.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

40% = 8.77% a year during 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

More than reasonable.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This could be the start of something good. The 40% number isn't out of thin air. It is the amount the CEO got his pay raised to . Unions can tie exec raises to worker pay in a way that boards aren't doing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree if its done correctly.

Got to be careful about execs getting paid through shares. My CEO gets millions in shares but only gets paid like 120k. This gets reused in certain indexes and pitched as being a decent ratio of executive to drone pay ratios.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully he keeps the same message when the executives refuse to make a reasonable offer and "the economy" might suffer again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's as likely that the Feds break this strike like they did with the railroads. Their argument against the rails was that almost every other industry relies on them to move product, while having fewer new cars will only effect the new and used car markets. With however hundreds of millions of usable vehicles that are already out there, this strike doesn't really have the same opportunity to spill over to the larger economy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well, there are a lot of folks that make parts for those cars. Auto is a pretty large sector, but otherwise... I think I agree.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (32 children)

I think this would mean more if he actually stood up for the railway workers during their strike.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It would, absolutely, but it still means a whole lot.

It's a recognition by a slick, seasoned, career politician in the highest office in his country that the winds are shifting with respect to the labour movement.

Don't think of this as Biden expressing any deeply held belief. Don't think of anything he does in those terms. The Democrats in general, and Biden especially, are a mirror that reflects something meaningful about the socio-political environment. Just as Trump and the Republicans are.

He and his team believe that something in that environment has shifted, and that labour is poised to be ok the winning side of that shift.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The 4-Day Workweek is more important.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder where the Big 3 will send their campaign cash for the 2024 election?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They were gonna do that shit anyways. The wealthy joined a side already vs back when they played both sides. Democrats lose nothing anymore by shunning the upper class entirely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same as always.

Hookers and blow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bobo is fighting a tough challenger so every dollar to her fund will help

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To both sides. They need to work with whatever party is in power. On top of that the real Big 3 American companies - Ford, GM, and Tesla - have committed so hard to EVs they literally can't back out now, but EVs are popular with liberals, not conservatives. They've made it clear their business interests align with the liberal agenda, and at this point any regulation on emissions is doing them a huge favor, something they won't see from the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why isn't he championing a massive raise in minimum wage? Everyone other than the rich are struggling. Is he just trying to make cars even more expensive than they already have gotten here? I'm in my 40s and my first house cost less than an average new car today. Help all the people, man.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republicans blocked Biden's previous attempt to raise the minimum wage so not a lot of use to try again unless there is some more pressure.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is that owners are profiting off of labor while not doing any real work themselves.

The rich need to make less profit so 'everyone other than the rich' can have more. It's that simple, not sure why it needs to be spelled out for you.

This should not be paid for by raising prices. It should be paid for by people wealthier than you making less profit while still being wealthier than you can ever hope to be.

I’m in my 40s and my first house cost less than an average new car today.

That's because people like you don't understand how basic economics work, so you're routinely taken advantage of by people who do.

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