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Microsoft is releasing a big Windows 11 update on September 26. Update 23H2 includes the new AI-powered Windows Copilot feature, a native RAR app, a new volume mixer and a lot more.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, another system wide crapware that nobody is going to use.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

They might as well call it Cortana AI

[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Still chasing the dream of mainstream Clippy acceptance.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

fr tho, MS has been on the digital assistant thing for decades at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I see you are trying to open the terminal, would you like me to:

A: break your knees

B: kill your entire family

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Gonna get downvoted to crap for this, but what the hell - hi, it's me, I'm that one guy who actually loves Windows a little more with every release. I'm continually surprised by the good stuff that's baked into the OS now (e.g. Much better multi-monitor support) and how the real power users can do a whole load more besides with Powertoys (key remapping!) - It's really encouraging to see that I need fewer and fewer specialist programs to get Windows to work just how I want.

I'm not wildly sold on AI being baked into the OS, but what the heck - Microsoft have earned their goodwill from me in recent years. I'll play around with it with interest.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was like you until windows 10. I opted out of that. It just felt like losing control over my computer. Windows 11 even more so.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

I'll be very surprised if AI is actually "baked into" the OS. A client to their cloud AI will be baked in, but that's not the same thing IMO.

(btw powertoys is great, multimonitor support is great too, if they finally fix the task bar I might finally go to Win11)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Much better multi-monitor support

Tell that to the Snipping Tool.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (5 children)

"a new volume mixer" - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Or make it open when clicking the icon instead of hiding it behind two clicks. Everytime I use Windows, I love KDE more.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Going off of Dave Plummer's video, looks like copilot is kind of a wash. It has the potential to do some neat stuff on desktop, but its crappily shoehorned into the OS instead.

[–] Kerfuffle 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"This time you're going to love Cortana. For reals!"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every tech company is pulling this stupid bullshit now. Mine is also trying to find any way they can to shoehorn an LLM into their product. It's marketing BS

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Underpants gnomes economics.

  1. Integrate AI into everything, even where it doesn't make any damn sense.

  2. ???

  3. Profit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Hoping they've made it better since

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Can we just ungroup the damned Taskbar already? I don't understand why they are being so stubborn on this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

That's already available for insiders and can be enabled, meaning it will soon-ish come to the stable versions of Windows 11.

[–] clay_pidgin 9 points 11 months ago (9 children)

That's the number one reason I stayed on 10. I'm figuring out a swap to Linux - gaming is my only concern. Might just dual boot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Other than game devs who intentionally block Linux with anti-cheat (Epic, Riot) almost all other games work perfectly fine on Linux nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I recommend StartAllBack. Granted no third party apps should be required for such a simple feature, StartAllBack does this and more.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I actually spoke with one of the people on the team for this the other week.

They have significant money problems. Copilot is expensive as crap to run, and this is about to make the situation 10x worse.

(Also this feature was completely broken a few weeks ago, so I'd be surprised if it launches without a hitch)

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[–] CookieJarObserver 31 points 11 months ago

Man fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Who would even create rar archives these days, when there is 7zip?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Everybody using usenet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Memesters, because WinRAR is a negware type of shareware (having an unlimited trial period), which constitutes as being "the good guy".

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

a native RAR app

It better come with a "Trial Expired" pop-up or I am not using it

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If I look at what Windows 11 is, its features and the new features, I honestly can’t work out who Microsoft’s target market is anymore.

With the pricing for AI, I can’t even work out which enterprises would consume it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Here's the funny thing. Some enterprise sectors will not use W11 until it has some sysadmin reliable way to disable all the telemetry. In my company W11 and Chrome are banned because they cannot be locked down from phoning home, which is a security liability. No way they're going to allow a rogue blackbox LLM running wild in our computers.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This type of shit is why i jumped to linux mint recently. Who the hell removed the right click menu options. I'm sure it will be back as a feature.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They didn't remove it. Go down to the bottom and choose More Options.

It's bullshit but they're still there

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Old context menu is still there. Need to do a regedit to make it default again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Like baking a turd into a mud cookie.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The only feature I'm looking forward to is the ability to ungroup multiple instances of the same program in the talk bar. That feature was around forever but for some reason they disabled it in Windows 11.

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