this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2023
67 points (91.4% liked)

politics

19118 readers
2781 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

In recent years, debates have raged over how much oversight parents should have in their child's education, ranging from what books they read to instruction over gender identity and other issues.

Moms are at the center of these clashes.

Moms for Liberty, an organization founded in 2021, says on its website that it's dedicated to “unifying, educating and empowering parents to defend their parental rights at all levels of government.”

But the Southern Poverty Law Center has listed the organization as an extremist group over accusations of harassing community members, advancing misinformation about LGBTQ people and fighting to remove materials about diversity from classrooms.

But resistance groups have formed against Moms for Liberty. One such group, Defense of Democracy, founded by two moms last year, is aimed at advocating for “a public education system that supports and enhances our shared experiences," fighting against efforts to target local schools, libraries and other spaces for kids.

Here’s an inside look at the battle between the two groups and how it's shaping the 2024 race.

'We have to fight this battle piece by piece'

Before Tiffany Justice co-founded Moms for Liberty, she served on the school board of the Indian River County, Florida, school district during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic when schools were implementing masks and lockdowns.

“I watched as parents were coming and saying, ‘I'm very concerned about my child. My child isn't learning well. They're suffering from forced quarantining or masking,’ and it just became very apparent that government schools - our public schools in America - didn't really give a hoot what parents said or did or what their concerns were,” Justice, a mother of four, told USA TODAY.

After her term ended, she co-founded Moms for Liberty along with two other moms, Tina Descovich and Bridget Ziegler.

“Every parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their child," she said.

“And what parents want when it comes to schools is transparency and accountability," she added.

Darcy Schoening, a 41-year-old who chairs the Moms for Liberty local chapter in El Paso County, Colorado, told USA TODAY she joined the group about a year and a half ago because she’s "scared" about what her children might be taught in school.

top 10 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whenever someone says, “It’s for the kids”, it’s usually about controlling others.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in this case, it's about controlling everyone else's children, despite what they claim, by trying to force schools' curriculums to only cover/include what they accept.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Parent's rights out of the mouths of Mom's for Liberty means means "privilege".

I'm not even being facetious or joking.

Rights are, by definition, universal. But how are parent's rights wielded by MoLs? Preferentially. And what is a right that is applied preferentially? A privilege.

They want the privilege of deciding for all students which are welcome in schools, what medical procedures they can endure, the curriculum they're exposed to. That's what they arguing for.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

As a father those cunts at Moms for Liberty can fuck off. You want to decide what your kids do and read then you do you. Let me decide for my own kids. Which means they can read any book they want without censorship.

Fuck those cunts and they need to be labeled as a hate group and barred from our schools.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If a child is abused 9 times out of 10 who is the typical abuser? If you want to protect children they need rights from their parents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly when I worked for CPS, a scary amount of individuals believe it's their right to abuse their kids.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Klanned Karenhood or Moms against Literacy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

20 quatloos say these "moms" are abusing their own children. It's always projection. Any time they cry about something, start investigating them for the same offences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

These people are a threat to democracy. They want to dismantle public education and turn schools into religious/nationalist indoctrination centers. Remember all the hype about "madrassas" and "they want to implement Sharia law in the US" from the right wing about a decade ago? Projection just like it always is with them.

With the now-stacked Supreme Court and increasing-gerrymandering making representation even more difficult. A brutal police force who're excited to use the toys they've been given against their fellow citizens; rubber bullets and tear gas, MRAPs and Drones; things are getting scary.

[–] starrox 2 points 1 year ago

What a bunch of pseudo-fashist shitbags. Perverting both the word "Mom" and "Liberty" - nicely done.