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[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Here's another chance to make people miserable," said some Republican, because making people miserable is their favorite thing to do. Your birth cert is needed for all manner of things — a driver's license, a job, a mortgage, etc — all of which will now be much more difficult, and involve telling your life story at every bureaucrat's counter.

Republicans are fucking monsters.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Everyone who is like "We should have it be a separate certificate" or "you shouldn't be allowed to change it" knows this and it is the ONLY reason any of them support it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The GOP aren't just monsters, they're fascist scum that have no place in any civilized society. The party needs to be treated like the NSDAP after post war Germany.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey hey hold on a minute, while I agree with your first sentence the second one I have to disagree with. They are not even close to what nazi germany did. Although they are working on it...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

They are indeed working on it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Why isn't there a federal birth certificate by now? It's dumb that in 2023 states have that much control over people's identities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some blue state should offer trans people birth certificates there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Birth certificates are issued by the birth state

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Is there a federal law that says so? If not, who cares?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Only reason I could see this being logical in the first place is if being a biological male/female would impact the medical treatment of anything in a major capacity. Otherwise, fuck this law, it’s stupid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Just to clarify birth certificates are never used for medical treatment. If this information is needed the kind approach would be to add a new field to record gender assigned at birth.

https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/what-do-i-need-a-birth-certificate-for

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Sure, but when is the last time your birth certificate mattered in a medical setting? Nobody asks for that to give care. And it makes no difference to care anyway, the patient will just give their medical history to their doctor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That I could see, though the hormones (or other meds) that they would take and report should highlight the transition. Though cmiiw, I think the only real difference, aside from anatomical, will be metabolic which the referenced hormones would alter, making the case unique in and of itself. (eg. A F>M taking testosterone would have a metabolism that is a closer approximation to male than female and vice versa)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — Kansas will no longer change transgender people’s birth certificates to reflect their gender identities, the state health department said Friday, citing a new law that prevents the state from legally recognizing those identities.

The decision from the state Department of Health and Environment makes Kansas one of a handful of states that won’t change transgender people’s birth certificates.

It already was among the few states that don’t change the gender marker on transgender people’s driver’s licenses.

Enacted by the GOP-controlled Legislature over Kelly’s veto, it took effect July 1 and defines male and female based only on the sex assigned to a person at birth.

“As I’ve said before, the state should not discriminate or encroach into Kansans’ personal lives -– it’s wrong, it’s bad for business,” Kelly said in a statement.

The new Kansas law was based on a proposal from several national anti-trans groups and was part of a wave of measures rolling back transgender rights in Republican-controlled statehouses across the U.S. Montana, Oklahoma and Tennessee also don’t allow transgender residents to change their birth certificates, and Montana and Tennessee don’t allow driver’s licenses changes.


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