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When Health Canada on Tuesday approved Moderna’s updated Spikevax vaccine – designed to target Omicron subvariant XBB.1.5 – health officials avoided labelling the latest shot a 'booster' during a technical briefing. Here’s why they say they’re dropping the word.

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[–] sbv 25 points 11 months ago

"The idea is that we'll get to a place where it may be much like the flu vaccines, where people may be on a regular schedule getting an updated vaccine," she said. "So I think there's more benefit just talking about the latest vaccine or the updated vaccine rather than going back to years ago when we were talking about your very first two doses or speaking about boosters."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Don’t care what it’s called. I think what most people just want to know are:

  • How effective is it?
  • How safe is it?
  • What is the risk without taking it?

Maybe skip the semantics

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
  • more than not
  • safe as the 17 other vaccines you took in your life.
  • death.

The risk with taking it is death, but not as likely because the COVID risk is reduced.

Look. You can trust the experts or you can vilify them. Our PHA isn't paid to push drugs. They get paid whether you in particular take the vaccine or not; and if you don't, it's a vaccine - and maybe a house and a job - that's given to someone else after you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Safe as the other 17 vaccines that you took in your life

Are they? How do you know? https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/commissioners-report/

That report seems to indicate that standards have changed in this country for approving mRNA vaccines. I'm curious to see if anyone will bother to address this report.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure that Preston Manning is the most unbiased resource.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

There's no such thing as an unbiased resource, so I read all the biased resources and see where it goes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if I take it I die at some point and if I don't I also die at some point - I am not getting out of this alive, am I?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Thats what they were getting at

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And... When is it actually available?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I heard by the end of the month.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

If they don't get it soon it won't matter as people will just end up with the new virus instead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

During the early pandemic the anti-reality folks said that the Covid vaccine wasn't actually a vaccine since you didn't need boosters with a real vaccine like the polio vaccine. I pointed out that the polio vaccine primary series required three boosters. No, no, they said...those were part of the vaccine, not boosters. I pointed out that each subsequent dose boosted the immune response so they were, in fact, boosters. No, no, they said. They were part of the primary series of the vaccine, not boosters. I then pointed out that in some recipients the immune response from the primary series wasn't strong enough and that they required, "additional boosters", according to the description of the vaccine. "You shut your porky mouth, they said."

Whether it's called a booster or a vaccine doesn't matter to me. I'm going to get it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

These nuts lost me when they shared a video by a "medical expert" the government wanted silenced that explained that on top of the microchips in the vaccines, there was Aids, Cancer, ground up baby fetuses, and Alzheimer's in the vaccines that would kill the majority with in 6 months. I often joke that because of the Alzheimer's I must have forgotten to die after the 6 months a few times now.

I'm with Bill Burr. Why would a government about control want to kill the 87 percent of those that took first vaccine? They are the compliant ones, why would they want to be left with the ones that aren't compliant and harder to deal with?

In my books, with the billions dead from the vaccine who was going to not only deal with the bodies everywhere, who would be left to serve the ruling classes and billionaires that are controlling everything that want everyone dead from the vaccines?

Anyways their nonsense lost me at the ok get go.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Don't forget the tracking chips. We all carry tracking devices with us anyway. I'm typing this on mine.

I used the, "They wouldn't want to kill the sheeple" argument a few times. Their brains went into shutdown and they couldn't answer.

Another conversation ender is, "I put on the mask months before the mandates because it was the right thing to do and kept it on for months after the mandates because it was the right thing to do. You put the mask on when you were told to and took it off when you were given permission and you call me a sheep?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I heard a conspiracy theory about this today, before I'd even seen this article. It's amazing how quickly they incorporate stuff into their delusions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Strange, just heard a radio commercial here over in Germany to check, if you're qualified to get another booster. I have to say it was a commercial by biontec!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


When Health Canada on Tuesday approved Moderna’s updated Spikevax vaccine – designed to target Omicron subvariant XBB.1.5 – Canadian health officials also avoided calling the latest shot a booster during a technical briefing later that day.

Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, likened the new language around updated vaccines to the same language public health agencies use when referring to the flu shot each year.

Dr. Supriya Sharma, chief medical adviser with Health Canada, added that the language shift came about from a series of conversations with regulators about creating standardized, international terminology for the vaccines.

As part of that conversation, she said, Health Canada and other regulators also decided to stop referring to “primary series” doses – the initial COVID-19 vaccine doses a previously unvaccinated person receives.

Dr. Matthew Tunis, executive secretary to the National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI), explained during the technical briefing Tuesday that the new phrasing also falls in line with how drug manufacturers are talking about the vaccines in their own official monographs.

Tunis and Sharma both agreed it isn’t wrong or inaccurate to continue call the seasonal jabs "boosters," since they boost the body’s immune response to SARS-CoV-2, but said the official language is nonetheless evolving.


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