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Property developer and CEO Tim Gurner: "We need to see unemployment rise. Unemployment has to jump 40, 50 percent in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around."

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We need to see guillotining of CEOs jump 40-50%.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Adding 40% to 0 is still 0 - we need to add, like, a million %.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

How about we start with one then try your idea

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[–] roadside_yeti 165 points 11 months ago

Counterpoint: maybe he needs to learn that he'd be nothing without the backs of the workers for him to stand on.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just want to clear the record and say that every business owner thinks this, it's just that this jackass has the stupidity to say it out loud. They don't want to pay more, which has become a necessity since the pandemic due to low unemployment rates. By having a larger labor pool, they can cut wages to take advantage of people's desperation.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is the "Millenials eat too much avocado toast" guy. He lives on rage bait and generating headlines.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Yeah I'm not giving this guy a second thought. He's just an idiot

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

For everyone saying "A 50% increase in unemployment would only take us from 3.8% to 5.7%, that's not bad" keep in mind that 37,000 people die for every 1% increase in unemployment. This man is essentially wishing for the deaths of 70,000 americans.

Edit: just realized he's probably talking about Australia from his accent. Not sure about the numbers for Australia on unemployment deaths, but I imagine the point should still stand.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

Yes, deaths, but also wishing for poverty and misery. What a humane soul.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the guy that made the original avocado toast comment. He is prime eat the rich material of ever there was any.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Tim is literally a freeloader making money off of other people's labor... scum. . .

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He isn't even self made. His grandfather gave him a loan and his boss supported him in his initial start

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure even Adam fucking Smith would think he's a bastard.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

He should see what we did to the czars and repeat himself.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around.

Employment is a mutually-beneficial agreement. I pity whoever has that CEO as a boss that thinks so lowly of their subordinates. We need to remind employers that they also depend on their employees.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

This angers me. If it wasn't for employees many employers be living in a box under the turnpike, because shit doesn't get done by wishful thinking alone.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This goes right into my spreadsheet of examples how winning at capitalism does not require much intelligence or foresight. In fact, too much of either hurts your chances.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All it requires is an incredible amount of egocentrism and a dash of psychopathy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not true! You also have to be significantly lucky. I've met plenty of egocentric psychopaths who are stuck in small-time hustles and utterly pissed about it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Keep in mind that “jump 40-50%” is not the same as “unemployment at 40-50%”…your headline is sensationalist (or just a misunderstanding of the numbers). This guy’s take is still absurd, regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean this ghoul is just saying the quiet part out loud. Realistically, every CEO thinks like this.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago

Holy shit what an actual psychopath

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I heard "Let them eat cake."

Both in the sense that this is a bullshit thing to say, and in the sense that this is the sort of thing that, if misquoted, could get innocent (at least of saying something like that) people hurt.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

So like, how would one go about trying to figure out where this guy lives?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not agreeing with the sentiment, but your title is wrong, OP. He didn't say unemployment should be 40-50%. He said it should increase by 40-50%, which equates to a move from 3.8% to 5.7%

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can we start with the CEOs?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

If I see this fuckwit in the street I’m laying him out.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Prole says the concept of private property gave the bourgeoisie bad habits, prescribes a redistribution of the means of production if the bourgeoisie knows what's good for them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

He needs to see pain in his life.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

The bourgeoisie are class conscious and act in their own interest. We should do the same.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Does he really not understand that employers make their money from their employees?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

He got his start with a loan from his grandfather and with extensive support from his boss

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Deserves the Wall.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a great point, so great he should win a free ticket to visit the Titanic in a home made sub

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I see no issue with that statement. Its a surefire for social revolution.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

So I guess that means corporations are actually hoping for a recession so they can "tighten the belt" and fire some workers and the remaining ones will work extra hard to make up the difference. Again.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I prescribe crucifixion for the CEO. Just nail his hands to a cross in the town square.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

A 1% increase is associated with 37000 additional deaths. 40% unemployment would be classicide.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The beatings will continue until ~~morale~~ productivity improves.

Edit: Sorry, morale is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy poster says capitalism gave us bad habits, prescribes CEOs be eaten alive.

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