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My significant other ate cucumbers and onion with some ranch. I called it a cucumber onion salad. She says there aren't enough ingredients to call it a salad, because "it takes multiple ingredients". I pointed out she had three and asked what the minimum is. She refuses to answer so I ask Lemmy.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

When will the divorce be final?

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Merriam Webster says :

*any of various usually cold dishes: such as

a: raw greens (such as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing

b: small pieces of food (such as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (such as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin*

As such, even just cucumber would suffice.

Edit: in dutch, a "salade" has to accompanied by a dressing or vinaigrette, thus very much limiting what a salad is.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just cucumber with yoghurt, some chopped dill, salt pepper and olive oil is a great salad. Add lots of garlic and it's a simple ~~Zaziki~~ ~~Tsaziki~~ ~~Zatziki~~ greek garlic dip.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Have a look at the bottle of ranch dressing, and count all the chemicals in there. Is the count of ingredients necessary for a salad now OK?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

To bolster your point I regularly make something I call cucumber onion salad with cucumber, white onion, and oil w herbs, salt and pepper. To me, it's a salad if it focuses on seasoned raw ingredients, esp vegetables, served cold. There's also the confusion over things like chicken/tuna/egg deli salads focused on being eaten as a sandwich or w crackers, and Midwest "salads" for which all rules seem to be moot except that it's likely served cold.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Cut is as a prep step and it becomes a salad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me a salad is minimum of two uncooked ingredients.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about potato salad, noodle salad and similar dishes containing cooked components?

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then you need also 2 uncooked ingredients I would say

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Those ingredients you listed are literally the ingredients to a dish called cucumber salad. Though usually the dressing is more of an vinegary Italian dressing instead of ranch. Just Google it.

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/cucumber-salad

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've often had spinach, some shredded cheese, and a vinaigrette and called it salad.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To me, a salad has always been a dish consisting mostly (if not all) of leafy greens. There are times when I'll put spinach leaves or chopped iceberg lettuce in a bowl by itself and eat them plain, and I'll call it a salad.

Adding other chopped/minced/diced/sliced veggies and/or dressing just makes it more of a salad, but a base of leafy greens is, by itself, still a salad. At least, in my personal opinion.

Other foods like "fruit salad" are just borrowing the word salad to give you a baseline sense of its ingredient arrangement, but I personally don't consider them true salads.

Like how "cow pie" is another word for cow poop, but there is a brand/recipe for chocolate snacks called cow pies. It's not a real cow pie, but the name alone gives you an idea of what it might consist of (chocolate, peanuts, maybe some peanut butter, etc.).

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

So here's the interesting thing: salads with no leafy greens came first. The word (sallet) originally referred to salted vegetables, essentially pickles, which were eaten chopped with a binding sauce (e.g., garum). Think something reminiscent of relish, maybe.

Technically the thing with leafy greens is specifically a "garden salad", but it's been the most common type for so long (~400 years) that most folks think of it as the default.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My girlfriend calls lettuce salad. A bowl of lettuce she calls a salad

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean when you put chopped iceberg lettuce and tomatoes, it's a salad... So... Two?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Last time I tossed a salad it was two ingredients, so I think you're correct.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Two ingredients and a "dressing" is a salad.

If no dressing, then three ingredients or more.

Also, chicken caeser salad is a salad, and it has starch/bread.

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