Funniest detail to me is that this server lobotomy apparently fucked up Ron DeSanti’s stupid Twitter Spaces candidacy announcement. Of course RdS is never gonna be prez no matter how much techbros are fluffing him.
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Of course RdS is never gonna be prez
Trump might die. He is 77. (Which is also why the crazy Kennedy is a bit scary. I don't expect America to do the normal thing this season).
Trump kicking the bucket before the nomination would be the funniest thing ever. There's no given successor. Every other candidate apart from Christie pays him fealty. There's no Trump ideology, it's all what he says at any given moment. Thus, there's no candidate who can state "I will continue Trump's legacy", because it's never been clearly stated what that legacy is. The GOP donors want someone who can continue to deliver tax cuts and gut welfare, but they're probably not as interested in pursuing the culture wars. The base, OTOH, just want red meat. And the people promising them the meat are in general hugely unpopular among the general electorate. RdS is there. People simply find him unlikeable.
Sadly Trump's parents lived long, so there's no chance he'll die.
@gerikson His parents lived long but they probably didn’t live on a diet composed mostly of saturated fat and ketchup scraped off the walls. He doesn’t smoke or drink alcohol (and loves Diet Coke) but that in itself isn’t a ticket to longevity. Biden is a lot fitter than Trump (and also teetotal) and he isn’t the subject of multiple criminal proceedings (his son is, but he isn’t). Trump’s levels of stress and anger seem off the scale. If I had to bet on one of them keeling over it wouldn’t be a tough decision.
Like I said, it would be hilarious, but odds are according to the actuarial tables are that Trump will be the Republican nominee for president in 2024.
Yes and also 77 compared to some of the other living dead who govern the USA is reasonably young. So even if some incident were to happen he would get pretty good care. And there seems no problem pushing forward a people who are not all there mentally. They should just send the poor man home to take care of his drug addicted scandalous son who is doing weird things online. Biden should do the same ;).
I don't even know what the "normal thing" is anymore.
We should just go back to normal, to Z̷̺̖̞̱̲͈͖̳̎̒á̶̛̬̳̝͓̌̄͝l̸̤̬͍͆͗̅̀̊̌̽̈́̏͘͝g̶̢͍͓̣̺̱̮̓̓̓̎͒͆̾̈́o̵̠̲͙͓̓̆̀̾̓́̄!̷̢͕͖͎͕̦͖̠͕̦̝͊́̉͌̐!
He definitely does not eject usb drives before pulling them out
before learning about how file management works: fuck yeah let’s pull out that drive, yolo
After: ok I’m gonna triple check to make sure it’s ejected, replug and check nothing bad happened, then eject it again
@fasterandworse Well yeah, he uses Windows.
can't wait for Musk to convert xitter to NT
Sometimes I’m not sure if it’s a Mandela effect when I remember huge binders full of service pack cd-roms for the NT servers we used to host the websites we built for our clients - in the server room of our office - with consumer-grade aircons running 24/7
every machine is the same shade of beige
every desk has a mouse holder. nothing is arranged for any particular comfort while using the computer, but your job is in fact to use the computer
we don’t speak of uptime here
We need more stories that disillusion us not just about Musk but in general about these kind of antics. Since I feel like a big icon of this kind of trope is Richard Feynman, I will henceforth in this comment refer to the protagonist of any such story as Richard Brainman.
There are too many stories about how Brainman goes around ignoring rules and reasonable concerns and uses his nerd powers to prove a point. I’ll admit that sometimes these stories are fun capers but I think we’ve glorified them too much. Brainman only wins sometimes! Usually he gets crushed under the server racks, which is hard to make a movie about.
no random dipshits coming to this asshole’s defense yet? I must not have included enough keywords for them to find it in a search
Oddly (well not that oddly) it seems that not many people are jumping to Musks defense anymore. I see it a lot less at least. (blockin blues on twitter also helps so you get rid of the 'I defend musk because he is great, and not just because im including the name of the cryptocurrency token I want to offload on fools in my posts'.
Anyway ontopic, OSHA and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
(And pretty basic shit about how to upgrade a datacenter making his head hurt confirms to me even more he isn't that much of a technical guy (and with Mudge admitting (he is the twitter security whistleblower) that their security sucked this whole 'transporting the servers unsupervised' shit should leave everybody worried).
E: looks like he has lost the new yorker https://nitter.net/NewYorker/status/1701835157341093957 As the kids these days say, it is so over.
Am I the only one surprised they managed to enter the server rack room in the first place?
you’re right, most secure data centers are more paranoid about access than this, even if they had a server room to themselves. I’m assuming the part of the story we’re not getting is the intensifying sequence of billionaire manbaby meltdowns musk had every time he was told no, which you can kind of see by how the folks running the data center treated the damage he was doing to their infrastructure towards the end. very much “fuck it, I’m tired of getting yelled at, let him do it and we’ll bill or sue him later,” which is kind of a foolish approach when you know musk doesn’t pay
If they have a full room to themselves, a DC might let them fuck around without supervision. There's no way I would let them into the structural/electrical bits without seeing his signature under the mother of all responsibility waivers, though.
After that, if this was just a regular asshole I'd hope their fuckaround trip goes without a major incident both to save myself from a lot of trouble and out of common decency towards a fellow human. This particular asshole would really be testing the limits of the latter.
this is apparently NTT, presumably one of the bits that used to be Verio, and they've been fundamentally competent in my experience. To fuck around seriously, he'd have to buy NTT first.
Yeah, the manbaby tantrums were my guess too
Bluster and force and intimidation go a hell of a long way on people who don’t necessarily know what backing power they have (which a lot of people in gate/door control roles often fall into)
I’m quite unsurprised they got that access
Not really, Mudge (hacker, twitter whistleblower) already said that security before the Muskening was horrible. So for a normal datacenter it would be a big surprise, but for twitter not really.
That was a bit surprising to me too, apparently no floor scale in the airlock leading to the server floor, or not even an airlock just a door. Also no security supervision, or at least one which was letting things slide.
DCs without the first half of your comment vastly (vastly) outnumber DCs with it
From the “also no” bit: hard to tell. They may have been there and just not mentioned, etc
Is he gonna blame that one on Jewish people too?
that's definitely defamatory to say that Elon would ever think something so ghastly as "Jewish people" did this, but it was definitely the ADL cancel culturing the servers
Turns out his grandfather started/was in some sort of weird techno cult (engineers should rule the world) and that is why they all moved to ZA, and yes they did blame everything on Jewish people.
Minor point of order: ZA, not SA (even though locally people think of it that way too)
(Source: am ZAian; SA is Saudi Barbaria)
Ah sorry. Edited.
Wait, there's another weird techno-cult?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement search for Joshua Norman Haldeman
On the 8 October 1940 the arrests have been made [1] by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The charges were for being a member of an illegal organisation Technocracy Incorporated. One of the arrested was Joshua Norman Haldeman, an amateur archaeologist, a former Regina chiropractor and former director of Technocracy Incorporated, the grandfather of Elon Musk.
there is so much to dig into here
Technocracy is the science of social engineering, the scientific operation of the entire social mechanism to produce and distribute goods and services to the entire population of this continent. For the first time in human history it will be done as a scientific, technical, engineering problem. There will be no place for Politics or Politicians, Finance or Financiers, Rackets or Racketeers.
technofascism really is older than it seems, isn’t it? there’s a bunch of shades of modern-day Silicon Valley libertarianism in there too, especially the reactionary shit that can be read as “you don’t need socialism if you do engineering hard enough and put all of your trust and money into the smart rich boys who lead our movement”. I’ve omitted some of the even more unhinged parts of their manifesto, but the whole thing is worth reading
this shit is fascinating and I want to find out more
there is so much to dig into here
This isn't as bad as it looks iirc, somewhere else I read this was because they were an anti-war org and those were declared illegal. No idea if they were anti war because the nazis should win, or anti war because war bad however.
@Soyweiser I don't think there was anything illegal about being anti-war in general, even in the UK and Canada - it was one of the things that differentiated conscientious objection there from conscientious objectors in Nazi Germany, who tended to get sent to concentration camps and/or shot. A lot of conscientious objectors who were granted exemption from the draft did alternative service instead such as working in factories or as farm workers or miners.
What was illegal, though, was (yes indeed) promoting the idea that the war was bad and therefore Hitler should be allowed to win.
@Soyweiser (One of my dad's schoolteachers was a conscientious objector - a Quaker who volunteered for the Friends Ambulance Unit and spent a lot more time in harm's way than much of the actual military did)
I have no idea btw, I'm just repeating what I read somewhere, and tbh, the journalism on this is pretty bad. (small example, why do they keep calling grimes musks ex wife?). (His grandfather also is somehow suddenly the leader of the org, which is not something mentioned by the wikipedia article).
They prob were on the pro nazi camp then.
"This brought back memories of the crush and electrical injuries I've heard of when there's insufficient datacentre safety."
Of course originally at: https://octodon.social/@cwood/111055481742842480
It's somewhat infuriating that all of my datacenter adventures have ended up with lacerations on my hands at a minimum, and yet he did not have a single object fall on him. It's almost enough to make me believe in a hateful sadistic deity who protects billionaires.
Or it was elided from the retelling (which I could see happening if, e.g., everyone got hurt and just accepted it as “part of the process” and thought nothing more of it)