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[–] CookieJarObserver 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

From Opium to Meth i see... Man just grow weed guys.

[–] gonzo0815 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] CookieJarObserver 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gonzo0815 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree. Smoked food is delicious.

[–] CookieJarObserver 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the fuck do you smoke a Bread?

[–] gonzo0815 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You rip off small pieces, roll it in paper and light it.

[–] CookieJarObserver 5 points 1 year ago

Didn't work, just made Toast...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can't really export food if you live there. Food in general doesn't even travel that far since it has all these special requirements. Yeah yeah you have some fruit from halfway across the world, good for you. The milk, eggs, and bread you are eating is a different story. Farmers need a good transportation network and a market that needs what they grow. Drugs are much more shelf stable and the price per unit is much higher.

Well you can still grow food for yourself which is great except it doesn't give you cold hard currency. Currency you might need if say you plan to be able to deal with a bad growing system.

[–] bernieecclestoned 9 points 1 year ago

Afghan Black hash used to be the primo cannabis

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Who would they sell it to? If I smoked every single day I am betting it would take me a month just to try once everything my walking distance dispensary has to sell me.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But that’s haram. Tsk tsk tsk. I bet the Taliban thinks as long as they sell it to non-Muslims it’s fine and dandy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extremists never care about adhering to their own rules. Those are just a tool to oppress and control their victims.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s true. But the “as long as you only do it to infidels” is an excuse that has been used by Muslims for centuries and not just the extremist kind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure bud, it's literally explicitly haram to make, ship, handle, and sell intoxicants. Doesn't matter who the end user is. Don't think for a second that this is something that "Muslims" excuse.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Appreciate you pointing this out

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anytime, I've noticed that the level of misinformation on Muslims is way higher on Lemmy that it was on Reddit 😞

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit taught me that correcting people on misinformation on Islam is a waste of time. I remember an argument I had with some dickhead where he called me "bonkers" for being Muslim, citing only the most inhumane behaviors and mindests that could loosely be attributed to the faith

[–] Jax 5 points 1 year ago

In the same sentence they'll go from acknowledging that muslim != extremist, right back to generalizing about the whole belief system.

I just wish they'd fucking internalize some of the lessons they're given and allow it to temper their bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Interesting, but the piece says wine in English, not intoxicants. Is Wine not correct translation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Arabic term used in that Hadith is 'Khamr', which is a catch-all term for intoxicant (defined as something that clouds the mind/judgement in Islam). In that time period, the most common khamr was wine/alcohol which is why it mentions pressing [grapes]. This is further clarified in other Ahadith Like this one. This is a common issue when translating classical Arabic, as a lot of common terms back then are not as specific as our modern terms and cannot easily be translated 1:1.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OK, to bad the translation doesn't reflect that better.

With religious texts there are often a great deal of interpretation, so whether it is used for good or bad often depends on interpretation.

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OK I see it is in the next paragraph, I just didn't read on the first time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of the prison part of American History X

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Smart, this way they won't even have to think about how to evade sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God damn imagine being cranked in the middle of freaking Afghanistan, I remember one night in my younger years walking out of a club after being om that shit and my literal skin was steaming. Like people were coming up to me and asking if I was okay, I can't imagine being in that heat on that

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I mean I can’t imagine living there sober.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Afghanistan has used this strategy for a long time to cope with isolation from legitimate parts of the world economy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is narcoterrorism still considered a thing in current year? This has to be more an export industry thing rather than a geopolitical disabilisation force multiplier thing, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's fair

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The United Nations’ Office on Drugs and Crimes, which published the report, said meth in Afghanistan is mostly made from legally available substances or extracted from the ephedra plant, which grows in the wild.

The report called Afghanistan’s meth manufacturing a growing threat to national and regional health and security because it could disrupt the synthetic drug market and fuel addiction.

Angela Me, the chief of the UNODC’s Research and Trend Analysis Branch, told The Associated Press that making meth, especially in Afghanistan, had several advantages over heroin or cocaine production.

A spokesperson for the Interior Ministry, Abdul Mateen Qani, told the AP that the Taliban-run government has prohibited the cultivation, production, sale and use of all intoxicants and narcotics in Afghanistan.

The 2022 report also said that the illicit drug market thrived as Afghanistan’s economy sharply contracted, making people open to illegal cultivation and trafficking for their survival.

An Afghan health official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said around 20,000 people are in hospitals for drug addiction, mostly to crystal meth.


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