this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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Never seen a 'cops are heroes' billboard, let alone one on wheels, so maybe this is a new idea. Optimistically, maybe it's an indication of progress when police now need to advertise.

Maybe it means we're making progress in helping people understand what cops are?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Every time a police officer puts on their uniform and goes to work, they have no idea how their day will end.

And neither does anyone they will interact with.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reason they skipped straight to mobile advertisements is because if that shit wasn't constantly monitored, it'd be defaced.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I bet some frozen paintballs would make short work of it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

An indication of progress isn't a billboard... enacting change like better training and holding criminals accountable, regardless of if they have a shiny chunk of metal they call a badge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Prostitute raping thieves and murderers aka your local constabulary. Fuck 'em now or they'll fuck you later... Deoxygenate the police!🏴🏴🏴🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🐷

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's a new cop-aganda instance, thankthepolice. If you have time, visit, muck about, but don't feed the trolls. Well, maybe a little

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, there've been several DMs and two posts about it (both deleted).

Trolling a pro-cops page is about as effective as blowing raspberries at cops. I'm sure it's fun — I was 12 once too — but trolling their page only invites them to troll this page, where we have more than enough trolls already. Please don't use this group to rally further trolling of other pages.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hey, thanks. I try. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a friend of the mod, I forbid you from posting there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's your club house, your rules

[–] TopShelfVanilla 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking pig shop near where I work put a sign out front that said ' heroes work here' . Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Real heroism is usually recognized without the 'hero' putting up a 'hero' sign.