Remember when we used to never hear about school board meetings because they were dry, boring school board meetings?
Yeah, I want to go back to that.
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All this could have been avoided 7 years ago if only a few more people got off their lazy asses and voted.
President Trump would not have happened, the Supreme Court would not have swung to the far right ushering in a whole boat load of awful verdicts, without a traitor in the White House a ton of stuff wouldn't have been polarized such as vaccines and government departments and institutions. Nazis would still be considered evil by most Americans - imagine that!
Huge turning point and unfortunately the genie is out of the bottle all because voters can't be bothered to head to the polls.
Imagine if in 2000 the Supreme Court hadn't stopped the Florida vote count and we got a president who read security briefings about attacks on American soil and cared about climate change.
Imagine if Americans learned from the past and figured out that Republicans are bad for their wallets, bad for the environment, bad for business, bad for the country and the planet.
Imagine if Americans learned from the past and figured out that geriatric politicians are bad for their wallets, bad for the environment, bad for business, bad for the country and the planet.
You're not blaming the right people by blaming the voters, Trump was the Republican party's Fault, he's their Frankenstein's monster, he shouldn't even be able to run for office again after 1/6 yet here they are still letting him and protecting him. The Republican party has abdicated it's responsibility to run quality candidates, they should have been the first check to balance the scales against someone like Trump, and they not only failed but through the work of Roger Aisles and Rupert Murdoch and organizations like the heritage foundation and the Federalist society along with the religious zealots have added fuel to the fire for the past 30 years.
So now they're a Qult worshipping an aging Orange Joseph Smith that nobody seems fully capable of holding accountable, and his white supremacist/neo-nazi/pro-authoritarian facist friends.
Trump was the Republican party's Fault, he's their Frankenstein's monster
Actually it was a bipartisan effort:
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately "elevated" Donald Trump with its "pied piper" strategy
Would you be shocked if I told you that she was a Republican? And that parents filed a lawsuit in 2021 to have her removed? Me neither.
This is why school board members shouldn't be elected by randos with no stake in the schools.
But who doesn’t have a stake in our schools? We all depend upon an educated workforce to run everything.
Their stake is different than yours.
They want obedient, unquestioning, future sheep for their theocracy. They don’t want an educated workforce because educated people ask too many questions and make too many demands - especially for things like decent pay and good working conditions.
Republicans rely on an uneducated public to vote for them.
Republicans are like the opposite of Timothy Leary. "Don't think for yourself, don't question authority." I think there's a word for it. Starts with an A and ends with uthoritarianism. Or start it with ass and end it with holes if you prefer.
No wonder Nixon called him the most dangerous man in America. And started a civil war to criminalize people who question authority.
This is true. But if every rando understood that, conservative politicians would not exist. And yet, they do.
how controversial school board meetings have gotten since
If the next words aren't "Moms For Liberty started forcing their christofascist demands into every meeting using astroturfed Kokh dollars", it's not telling the full story.
He sees another board member do a Sieg Heil, even sarcastically, and then resigns? Borderline irresponsible.
She wasn't promoting Nazism herself, she was sarcastically calling the president a Nazi. Or the Nazi.
I didn't think she was actually promoting Nazism. But if you Sieg Heil, or use the n-word or any slurs, you better have a good reason. And "council procedure doesn't allow people to interrupt the president of the board" is not a good enough reason.
Seemed like it was an ongoing issue and that was just the proverbial straw. Also, the retort may have hit close to the heart for the dude to dip out right after. But, as usual, this is just speculation on my part.
I don't think it's worth it in any case. You can use another example. Doing stuff like this takes away from your point and muddles everything.
You are comparing the two slurs where there is no comparison. There are many instances where you could legitimately call someone a Nazi. Ie. Calling out a white supremacist as a Nazi.
There is pretty much zero situations where I can use the n word. (Unless between your race and as a term of endearment)
That did seem a little odd to me. I suspect there's at least a little more to this story that the article didn't include.
If we're being charitable, it's possible that there was a lot of drama generated by the action and the president wanted to avoid that? But still, irresponsible. Resigning in situations like that is how extremists have taken over local and state politics - because no one wants to deal with them.
I'm handling this responsibility over to the nazi's...
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Tipp City Schools board member Anne Zakkour said, “Oh … Sieg Heil,” before doing the Nazi salute to the group’s head, Simon Patry, during a meeting about transparency in school projects.
In a statement to Crisis in the Classroom, the education franchise for Dayton 24/7, Zakkour said the salute was a sarcastic gesture because of how controlling Patry had been at meetings.
Patry has been acting like a dictator on our board for years and last night I had enough of his demands of total obedience,” she said.
“My reaction last night was symbolic and a sarcastic gesture of submission to a board officer acting as a dictator.
The Hill has reached out to Zakkour and current board president Amber Drum for comment.
The incident is the latest example of how controversial school board meetings have gotten since the pandemic as issues of transparency and curriculum have caused many meetings around the country to bubble over in fury.
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