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[–] [email protected] 64 points 11 months ago (6 children)

For real though, aggressive wasp species give the chill species a bad name. It's like being mad at bumblebees because Asian giant hornets exist.

Yellow jackets for example are definitely unpleasant: they buzz you when you try to eat outdoors, don't get the message to move on when swatted at, and constantly carry an attitude of "come at me bro." However my local species of paper wasp (I live in the Pacific Northwest of the US) is crazy chill and very conflict avoidant: they don't buzz or chase humans, don't show interest in human food or garbage, and will get out of your way if disturbed (assuming you're not attacking their home)

In fact, we actively attract paper wasps to our garden by planting western yarrow, and even have plans to erect a wasp box for them to safely make a home in (no I'm not joking). Why? Because in addition to being peaceful members of our garden ecosystem--alongside butterflies, ladybugs, frogs, salamanders, birds, and other critters--they are dedicated hunters of garden pests such as cabbage white caterpillars. As someone who grows a lot of kale for its year-round hardiness, I cannot express how much I appreciate wasps' dutiful patrol of our brassicas and other crops. And if you can get a population to establish themselves near your garden they will indeed be dutiful in scouting out pests.

It took me a while to shake off my all-wasps-are-bastards attitude toward them, but I really cannot express how much paper wasps have become garden bros, and it makes me sad to see my bros vilified.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I vote for more people effectively making "pet insect box" of species that hunt down pests

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

There's assorted companies that sell parasitic wasps as pest control.

Spalding sells theirs as "fly predators"; they basically look like tiny gnats but lay their eggs in fly pupa. They work great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I like your style

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The only "irrational fear" I have that I know of is of wasps, but your example is exactly how I came to appreciating wasps, cabbage moth caterpillars and all lol

We don't see too many paper wasps where I am, so I had to accept that the yellow jackets in my garden cared more about the caterpillars than me and I thankfully hadn't gotten stung or chased the whole time I had that garden. I had to move and now the real pest I have to fight are deer, scumbag deer... Destroy your garden and your car, some even in the same day lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Paper wasps in the southwest are chill too. A wasp box is a neat idea, ty!

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wasps are also pollinators and are just as vital to the ecosystems they live in as bees and other native insects.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've killed 5 nests in last 30 days. The can be so aggressive.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Humans: "Give wasps a chance!"

Wasps: "Fuck humans. Fuck them all. Over and over. With your ass spikes. Bonus points if you take out an eye."

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wasps: "Fuck humans. Fuck them all.

I mean, they have a point.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only some wasp is nasty. There's a huge amount of species of them that's very important to the ecology, not aggressive, and also am pollinator. Fig wasp, for example, is crucial for pollinate fig and isn't nasty at all.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Until they’ve had a drink. A few glasses of that fermented fig juice and they think they’re all Bald Faced Hornets.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In know your comment isn't serious but do you know how wasps pollinate figs?

It's pretty cool, the fig is actually a load of flowers pointing in towards the middle of what we think of as the "fruit". Each variety of fig has a specific species of female wasp that burrows in and then lays its eggs inside. The male larvae hatch first, fertilise the female larvae, burrow out and die. The females then hatch, use the burrows to exit and fly off to find a new fig. The female wasps fertilise the figs in this process. Some wasps end up trapped inside the fig and get partially dissolved by an enzyme...

Some commercial varieties have been bred to fertilise themselves but in the wild the figs don't ripen without the wasps.

https://www.foodunfolded.com/article/figs-wasps-how-plant-and-pollinator-work-together

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yea, and yes :). We had a large old fig tree in SW France. It was fascinating and I swear they did get drunk (but not, in all, honesty that fighty).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wasps don’t give a fuck about you; don’t walk up to their nests and slap them and you’ll be fine. They’re defensive creatures rather than aggressive.

They also serve as excellent pest control. I tend to just leave them be unless they build a nest near a door that would be problematic.

Hornets, on the other hand, are indeed aggressive and can indeed go fuck themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plus, I believe the vast majority of wasps are solitary and non-swarming (someone can probably fact check me on this), and thus not as aggressive as the species people typically think about which are just trying to protect their nest. I have plenty of wasps around my yard and I've never been stung by a single one.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

My two most notable encounters with yellow jackets (here we call them European wasps or Vespula Germanica) went pretty much like this:

oh shit, there's a wasp buzzing around on my path. Act cool, don't show your fear, just move on and nothing will happen

Wasp: stings

You bitch, just go extinct already

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, most wasps are okay.

Yellow jackets are straight up sadistic assholes however.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I had one fly in my mouth once

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[–] jubilationtcornpone 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Me: Swinging at wasp with a fly swatter.

Wasp: "You don't scare me. In fact, I'm going to pretend you're not even here. La La La! I can't see you!"

Me: Standing there minding my own business while a wasp flies into me.

Wasp: "THIS MEANS WAR MOTHERFUCKER!! I'M GONNA RAIN HELL DOWN ON YOU THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU'VE NEVER SEEN!!!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Me: Standing there minding my own business while a wasp flies into me.

Wasp: Aaaand I took that personally

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They do eat mosquitos, so that’s cool.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

> Do any wasps make honey?

> No. Adult wasps drink nectar from flowers but don't turn it into honey. They feed their young by laying eggs inside prey.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/do-any-wasps-make-honey

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Adult wasps drink nectar from flowers but don't turn it into honey. They feed their young by laying eggs inside prey.

This is pretty awesome when it comes to tomato horn worms.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

No. Nonono. Kill them. All of them. I won't have it. And don't try to convince me with your pollinator shit. I won't have it. This is personal. Every one if those erratic stinging motherfuckers shall die.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

There's a huge number of different species of wasp, which vary greatly in size. The smallest wasps are the smallest known insects; they're literally smaller than a millimeter. With many of them, you wouldn't know they were wasps if you didn't have a microscope.

In addition to pollinating, many wasps either eat or parasitize other insects. Yellowjackets will hunt horse flies, and there's assorted wasps that are sold to farmers to control various pests..

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

I love the memes of animals using keyboards.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't even know if I'm allergic to wasp or bee stings.

Wasps don't attack me. Occasionally they do fly around me. Sometimes one steals a tiny piece of my cake or so. But after a short time they all leave, doing their wasp business elsewhere.

But never do they sting me. Maybe they are not provoked by me. Or maybe I'm a wasp whisperer. :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Nah wasps are chill.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Drawing is accurate, if bound to feature in my nightmares. (Anti)social wasps are flying terrorists and we're better off without them. Solitary wasps are cool, though, they can stay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I always assumed that Sky was comprised of Rupert Murdoch and an angry hord of hornets

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