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[-] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago

Fears of peace talks

What kind of bullshit Orwellian headline is this? Peace is GOOD, stopping the bloodshed is GOOD. We WANT less people to die.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago

Somebody think of the Lockheed shareholders!

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Inb4 "acksually killing thousands over lines in the sand is good" rhetoric

[-] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Too late, that shit is all over this post already

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago

Fears of peace talks

Peace bad, war good!

Did I get that right?

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If Ukraine enters peace talks now, have they gained anything or put their country in a better position since the original peace talks, which were sabotaged by Boris Johnson and British intelligence, over a year ago? Have they gained any significant territory since what was proposed then? Is their army in a stronger position? Are any gains since then worth the losses?

Just looking at it from a purely pragmatic and realpolitik perspective, I don't see how anyone can argue that Ukraine has gained anything significant in this stalemate of a conflict. If they get similar results now, as what was on the table originally at the first peace talks, it means that their Western backers essentially sold a pipe dream to Ukraine that never materialised. Is the collective West ready to explain that to Ukraine, and the rest of the world? That they used Ukraine as a testbed for their weaponry against Russia, sold Ukraine a utopian fantasy that they'd be able to regain significant territory using Western weapons and tactics which never happened, and hundreds of tens to hundreds of thousands of people got killed or injured to accomplish very little.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

Turns out that an offensive is really hard. Who would've thought? Definitely not centuries of military doctrine.

[-] Apollo 21 points 10 months ago

According to Ukraine it was uncovering the evidence of atrocities such as Bucha that ended any chance of peace talks early doors.

Uncovering mass graves of civillians is likely to do that mind you.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

These Baltic and Polish dipshits should just be airdropped on to the frontlines if they want the war to continue so badly.

Without parachutes.

[-] dakku 27 points 10 months ago

Yeah, along with the dipshits commenting from somewhere safe out in the West or whatever that never learn from history about appeasement that doesn't work.

No one "wants the war to continue". But "dipshits" from Poland and countries near Russia know that they will not stop there, and after Ukraine they're next.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Great, another Hexbear brigading thread. Hexbear needs to be defederated, it's a bunch of fake communists spreading authoritarian propaganda.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Worst fucking title.

Fear of peace? That's pretty fucked up.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

fears of peace

Sounds about right when it comes to what wine cave warriors crave and what they fear losing.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

I don't believe this for one second. I haven't heard anything from the Ukraine administration that would suggest in any way that they are interested in peace talks. In fact, their recent choice of putting a Crimean Tatar as the Minister of Defence suggests that they are serious about taking Crimea back from Russia. I hear nothing but absolute resolve by both the Weat and Ukraine to keep fighting until a Ukraine victory.

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