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"Based on your consent, we may collect and use your biometric information for safety, security, and identification purposes," The revised policy of X(Twitter) is expected to go into effect on September 29, 2023.

The thing is, biometric data is permanent and can't be changed. If we share that with X, it could mean lifelong privacy risks. And seriously, I can't think of a single reason why Elon needs to know where I went to high school for data security purposes.

People keep talking about leaving Twitter, but when will they actually do that? I guess they'll just keep putting up with it, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Just for you guys to know, a Saudi teacher got death sentence over tweets, cuz it is linked to his identity, and now Elon even wants more specific data from users? People need to give up on Twitter!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Apparently, Elon did not get any lesson from the Saudi man’s death at all. Its so important for people to remain anonymous in the digital world.

Try this, I found people talking about this on Lemmy: https://www.alchemy.com/dapps/wiremin

So I downloaded, and from my experience so far on this decentralized social network, it has the ability to replace Twitter for those who care about privacy and are concerned with data breaches.

  • Using an Anonymous ID, it does not require either an email or a phone number when creating accounts.
  • It is decentralized, with no central cloud server to store our data.
  • There is no censorship; no one can ban your account or remove your content.
  • It connects the world widely, so no single country, government, or person can manipulate the content we see.
  • The feed/chat space, DMs, voice calls, and fast file/pic transfers are all end-to-end encrypted.
[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The saudi rulers are Elon's friends. There is nothing there for him to learn from.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

No censorship / unable to delete content? What happens when somebody decides to post illegal content like CP? I know that's an easy target, but either it has a way to deal with that, or it's going to attract a very scary crowd, at least as a subset.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wiremin is closed source. Why would anyone use that over mastodon?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

There's also mastodon and its part of the fediverse

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

For safety, security purpose??? Bullshit

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

For safety and security of dictators around the the world, so its easier for them to identify critiques.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Security is what pretty much all companies use when collecting data. It's designed to stop you dead. Many people have been conditioned to see "security" as necessary.

Calls may be recorded for security and training purposes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Think of the children

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not all. The company has further outlined in its upcoming privacy policy it "may use the information we collect and publicly available information to help train our machine learning or artificial intelligence models."

All artists better get the fuck off that plattform. I doubt he will stop at text.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I imagine that's going to be policy of most commercial online platforms going forward if the AI boom continues.

User pressure might keep it away from dedicated art sharing platforms, but general purpose social media will end up open season as a source of training data.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

It already has. That’s why Twitter and reddit have tightened their API policies and locked down websites for non-signed in users. Not to prevent AI training… just so they can charge for it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you trying to summon Louis Rossmann?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a great new idiot test. Anyone who buys Musk’s reasoning is so stupid or dishonest that they can’t be trusted with anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's gotten to the point that I question anyone who links to Twitter now or has an account. Like why? Why not leave already?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This increasing interest in biometric data, not just from "X", is concerning to say the least

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

Bless, they're always thinking about our safety.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Ahh yes, the company owned by Elon Musk, who famously called a diver a "pedophile" for criticizing his coffin submarine idea to rescue some kids. He's also slashed budgets and cut manpower in all the important departments at twitter. That's the person I'm most likely to trust with my personal information.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How exactly do they plan to collect biometric data? In most platforms biometric data remains on device.

Perhaps Elmo will try spinning some sort of WorldCoin style biometric crypto scheme next.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

They'll simply ask for it and people will give it in order to keep using the platform.

Google Ads asked me (a private individual) to provide my drivers license or passport in order to verify an organization's Google Ads account, or else the account will be suspended. I understand verifying the organization via governed registration records, that makes sense. But requiring an emoloyee or volunteer's passport?

The account is just going to get suspended.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

The issue here isn't that Elon wants your biometric data.

The issue is that there will be a bunch of absolute idiots who freely give him their data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The issue here isn’t that Elon wants your biometric data.

No, that is the issue. Everyone can decide if they want to or not. I assume that most here are smart enough not to.

The issue is that there will be a bunch of absolute idiots who freely give him their data.

If people want to give that info away, then who am I to stop them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I think it's naive to frame it as "wanting to give data" but more that they're allowing themselves to be exploited because many simply don't even know what's in the policy, there are many who concede that they can't do without the platform, and then simply folks who don't know better. I highly doubt there's any significant number of people who understand the policy and happily consent even if they could easily give up the platform instead.

So I think they're both problems. A platform needing data beyond what's necessary to provide the service AND that most people will either concede defeat or not know better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Idk, sounds like victim blaming to me.

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[–] Saneless 19 points 11 months ago

Why would anybody do this? To access a service so bad it keeps falling?

No thanks, dipshit

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought a lot of people did leave Twitter. I did a few months ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

A large amount of people I know said that, and actually did it. For the rest, the alternatives are not big enough to farm clicks off ragebait and AI "art"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

X is safe and effective?

Since Elon has been very transparent about his goal of making X the everything app, by adding all this stuff and biometrics.... For security?

What could possibly go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

He's also friends with Putin & other autocrats.

What could go wrong?

Oh yeah...Elon has been known to ban every antifascist. & he wants access to all of their information.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, plenty of idiots will gladly hand over whatever he wants. Even if you COULD trust that he wouldn't use your data for nefarious purposes, why would you want yet ANOTHER company to have the complete story of your life in a hackable database? Remember the Equifax data breach? Guess most people don't.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Remember the Equifax data breach?

Remember how we sent every C-level to prison for twenty years and fined the company out of existence? lol jk corporations are infallible and it's our fault our data was held by a private company without our consent.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Next they're gonna want blood and semen samples.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ooh, are they gonna come fellate me?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Well, most celebs and e-celebs should get off X pretty much immediately, because at this rate this data will inevitably gets leaked somewhere for a Blue Checkmark.

Also, impersonating celebrities? On the Internet? Who would do such a thing?

(Crypto is so dumb by the way.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I guess we're going nna keep hammering those nails into the coffin huh?

Not that im complaining. I've always hated twitter. I'll gladly watch the dumpster fire burn.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I just deleted my "X" because of this. I've been meaning for a while to get off of "X".

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

anndd profile I made in the first month of twitter being a thing is gone

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

God damn.

These fucks really fucked up the internet (+ the whole society/"reality").

How do we escape this dystopia at this point?

Is it possible?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I read identifying purposes and thought they were doing some kind of philosophy experiment on people's online behavior and their life purposes

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Elon can eat my ass.

(Or maybe not.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Want X to have a stool sample too?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I’m so intrigued about bot biometrics data science!

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