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[–] yata 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hexbear is composed of leftists of all shapes and sizes

Well, that's a big fat lie, unless they literally mean their physical shapes and sizes. Ideologically they are all in lock-step, they can't be anything else, since a strict rule of indoctrination by ban has always existed on that instance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair, they do have the one token anarchist that shows up whenever they brigade a community. Any anarchist that would willingly hang out with MLs seems pretty sus to me, though.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'd agree some semblance of left unity would be valuable if tankies actually had left leanings other than saying they support lgbtq. they don't even actually support lgbtq because they constantly deny any allegations of their favorite authoritarians having any ill intentions towards the group. also they are adamant that china is doing nothing bad to Uyghurs, and that Russia is fully in the right invading Ukraine. Tankies are fucking dumb

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My favorite is when tankies don't have any other enemies, and you can watch them tear each other apart over whether LGBT people are people, or whether their 'comrades' in the developing world are right about Western degeneracy destroying their good, cis-straight cultures.

It's astounding to watch so many LGBT tankies sudden realize they would get the bullet in an instant, and immediately do nothing with that information.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't understand why so many trans individuals state their alliance with tankies, when any government tankies support are totally fine with murdering them.

They're okay with ragging on the US' problems against the LGBT+ community (and there are many such problems to rag on), but conveniently ignore things like gay and trans people being killed in droves in Chechnya.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Might be that the total subsumption of all issues to class means that LGBT people can feel more welcomed in tankie communities as individuals because tankie communities don't regard the issue as of importance. Rather than feeling the sting of rejection in right-wing communities (and there are a terrifying number of right-wing LGBT folk) or the strong emphasis on LGBT community and culture in many left-leaning communities that may leave some feeling 'out of the loop' and depersonalized, even if that's not the general feeling or the intent.

Alternatively, LGBT people are just people, and people are often dumb. Whichever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

seems it's hard to stop having jello instead of a brain when you already have jello instead of a brain

[–] goat 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May you remove your final sentence about the lives? It's against site-wide rules

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] goat 3 points 1 year ago

thanks pal!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I'm with Andrewism on the whole "left unity" thing. The left never was, never will be, and doesn't need to be unified. We can just collaborate (or not) with those of other political persuasions on a per-project basis.

The reason tankies push "left unity" is because they plan to be in charge of the unified left. Fuck that noise, we don't need it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Left Unity is valuable... when it's not just an excuse for tankies and trolls to drive off everyone else so they can enjoy their circlejerk until they realize one of their own has a slightly different opinion and needs to be sent to the GULAG.